Star Bobber

Star Bobber with her Indian Scout Bobber
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hey everybody welcome to the modern

squid where we get to know the people

behind our favorite riders and

companies

today’s guest is estrella alvarez better

known as star bobber on instagram and

youtube

so let’s get started and find out where

she falls on the scale of

full squid to full ATGATT one of the

things i plan on asking people because i

call it the modern squid i’m going to

ask people where they fall on that scale

of like you know full squid to full ATGATT

so where do you fall on that scale would

you say

um i think it depends on the weather

um i’m guilty of like riding in like a tank

top and jeans

when it’s hot um i live

in fresno and so like for example it was

like 107 this past weekend

um so if i do ride i’m gonna be in a

tank top and jeans

but for the most part i try to at least

wear a jacket so

i would say i’m like if squid is what a

ten?

A squid, is it’s just like full squid to

full ATGATT you know so you can make up

however you would say

in between there.

yeah i’m like in the middle

in the middle okay.

yeah because even like jackets i wear

aren’t like they don’t have any armor or

anything so

No armor?

i have like two that do but i

rarely wear them.

Let me ask you this then;

have you ever broken a bone?

no.

okay see this i think this is why you’re

um

more towards the squid level i’ve broken

my ankle before

and that sucks.

yeah

not riding a bike um just in general i’d

never

i’ve gone over 30 years never breaking a

bone and then i was

um visiting my sister for her wedding

and my brother-in-law wanted to go rock

climbing so we went out to

a rock climbing gym um and i just

happened to jump off the wall funny and

snap my ankle

right before the wedding so i had to

wear sweatpants to my sister’s wedding

oh my god.

because they put me in a cast

and i didn’t have anything that fit over

it

that’s crazy.

You know, i know you

mentioned that you live in fresno but

did you grow up in fresno or?

i did yeah so i um was born in san diego

and we moved here when i was little so i

don’t really remember san diego very

much

so um yeah basically i like to say

raised here it’s kind of weird when i

tell people i was born somewhere else

but i feel like i was born here

yeah well that makes sense i come from

military families so we moved every

few years or so so for me it’s kind of

like where i’m from is wherever i spent

the most time last

you know?

oh yeah um

so you know we’ve heard of you i’ve seen

you talk about

you know your husband and your kids but

i don’t think i’ve ever heard you

mention any siblings do you have any

siblings as well or

um yeah i do i have two brothers and a

sister

okay do you along with them are you guys

more of the the fighting siblings um

no we get along we get along um i’m the

baby

there’s like a huge gap between me and

the second youngest there’s a nine-year

age gap

um so they’re i think closer like the

three of them

than me um and so and then i’m kind of

like

the rebel of the family so but we get

along okay

um that’s that reminds me so my ex-wife

is also

the youngest in her family and there’s a

giant age gap as well like her mom

didn’t even know she could still have

kids

um when my ex-wife was born so

you know i definitely understand where

you’re coming from with that

yeah she has the same kind of thing like

she knows her siblings and someone gets

along with them but it was too much of a

gap to really be

as close as some other siblings.

yeah like we didn’t like

grow up together you know like they were

in high school when i was in like

elementary school so…

yeah not as much to

talk about when you…

yeah.

do you guys talk more now do you

feel like than you did when you were

growing up

yeah i would say so my brother moved so

he’s

not in the state in california but um

my sister is and so we talk

we talk pretty often all right and we

have we both have kids that are

similar in age so her youngest is um

just one year older than my

oldest two so that kind of

brought us a lot closer.

so she waited for a while to have kids huh

there’s an age gap between her so she

has the older two and then she kind of

waited and then they had another one.

oh okay.

yeah.

So did your brother move

somewhere cool so that you can uh

visit somewhere interesting or? uh no and

actually i haven’t visited him yet um

but he moved to kentucky.

oh no. so

yeah it’s kind of random but yeah that’s

where he’s at right now

i’m just kidding for anyone who lives in

kentucky

so where did you end up going to high

school? um i went to high school

here in fresno it’s called roosevelt

high school

um and it’s actually a school of the

arts school i danced

and so that was the main reason why i

went there it wasn’t even my district

um and so yeah that’s why i went there.

oh you stole my questions i was gonna

ask you what crowd you hung out in, but

obviously you were hanging out in the

arts crowd.

yeah i kind of yeah it was like the arts

like

um i don’t know i can’t explain it yeah

i guess it was artsy’s it’s

kind of crazy when you go to a school of

the arts school because there’s like

a lot of different crowds because it’s

like the arts but there’s like

the dancers, musicians, the actors, the

musical people you know so there’s still

like

way more crowds than probably a typical

high school would have.

okay,

so did you did you gravitate towards one

or do you feel like you were one of

those people that kind of

cross-pollinated between all the

different groups or? i would say i

crossed

and then like i’m one of those people

where i have like

two really really close friends versus

like somebody who has a bunch of like

friends you know so um that’s kind of

how

i was i kind of had like my two or three

main like

people that i hung out with um in fact

one of them is still a really best

friend now

so oh nice. so, what kind of dance did you

specialize in or was it not really a

specialty at that

point? yeah no, i did um folklorico which is like

mexican

um dancing in a sense uh-huh it is it’s

mexican

it’s always hard for me to explain what

it is um when you don’t know it

but it’s kind of like if you’re not if

you’re not familiar with it

if there’s like a mariachi band playing

um envision the girls dancing and that’s

kind of what

that’s what it is.

now would it be the

type of dancing you were doing in that

dress recently on your instagram post?

yes yes.

all right so for everyone

listening if you want to see what she’s

talking about go to her instagram

yeah you’ll see both photos and video

for uh doing that it was really cool my

girlfriend saw that and she was jealous

she loved your dress

she’s always wanted one but she hasn’t

hasn’t gone and gotten one so

okay so um did you

get involved in any other activities in

school besides dancing or

were you pretty focused on on dance? um

no just dancing i was one of those

people who hated high school

so i just you know if it wasn’t for

dancing i’m not too sure if i would have

even

gone been able to get through it. so,

whose decision was it to go to the um

the dance

high school or the arts high school?

um

it was mine

because i danced on ever since i was

little

so it’s one of those things where like i

always done it and the school

specialized in it um and my one of my

older brothers

had went there as well so

um i kind of followed in his footsteps

he wasn’t a dancer he did more like arts

like the

acting and every in the uh stage

building so

i kind of was familiar with the school

because of him

okay well that’s cool. nice is you think

that that’s um

one of the benefits of living in

california that you have access to those

types of schools or do you?

oh yeah oh yeah absolutely i definitely

we have schools like that we have a

middle school like that we have like a

school like elementary i think it’s like

kindred through eighth that’s a

art school so yeah.

do you think you’re

gonna put any of your kids in

um in art school or are you gonna wait

and see what their interests are in?

it depends what they’re interested in. my

one of mine plays piano so if he like

sticks to it and wants to do that

um he has like a real like appreciation

for music

so there might be a chance that he will

go there

um maybe my daughter i don’t know she’s

kind of she changes her personality

all the time i mean she’s young right

they’re both

nine so they’re twins wow that’s got to

be yeah

yeah yeah my oldest two yeah

all right ah your husband when did you

meet your husband

um i met my husband on

i met him new year’s eve it was

uh like 2009 turning into 2010.

um and so yeah i met him at a new year’s

eve party.

okay so then um

was he obviously okay so 2009

it’s already 2020. i’m going to assume

was that high school?

no i was 19 so i think i had just been

maybe a year

and a half out of high school or

something something like that okay so he

wasn’t someone from your

your high school that you knew?

no it was

a co-worker’s cousin

it was a co-workers like a friend that i

worked with

and another co-worker was having a new

year’s eve party and

she invited him to the party so he was

there. oh wow.

okay yeah cool does your husband dance?

no. okay.

do you think uh is he not interested

in dancing

or do you just have high expectations

and so you don’t want him to dance?

i mean definitely not like the dancing

that i do

but like he’ll dance like at a wedding

or

a you know event then yeah, he’ll like go dance

but

yeah not like what i do he’s not no he

played soccer all his life so he’s like

kind of more like athletic type.

okay so yeah wow i i wasn’t really an

athlete in high school but

i am i guess would be considered one now

just because i am a long distance runner

you are? so i ran like half in full

marathons

so i uh funny story;

this is the reason i hate running, by the

way so,

um i did different types of martial

arts and stuff when i was a kid

and my dad told me um you know you got

to do

one high school sport before you get out

of high school just so you’ve got

something to put on college applications

and that sort of a thing.

but, because i hadn’t been playing any

sports um

during my my school career i didn’t have

any the the basic skills for things like

baseball, basketball,

you know football, that sort of thing and

um we moved into a school

where it was in the midwest and everyone

had been playing the same sport under

the same coaches since like middle

school

right yeah and so um when i was looking

to figure out what exactly i was going

to do

i was talking to my neighbor and he was

like oh cross country doesn’t have any

tryouts

and i said well, what’s cross country and

he said oh you just run it’s not that

big of a deal he’s like it’s super easy

I’ve been doing it forever

and uh you know and i didn’t have a

lot of money and so

i was like well what do you have to buy

to to do cross country?

he’s like, all you need is a pair of

shorts a t-shirt and shoes;

and i was like oh my god this is my kind

of sport! so,

i showed up the first day i was like no

tryouts and it’s dirt cheap, perfect!

i showed up the first day and the coach

is talking to everyone

and you know shooting the breeze with

them. everyone knows everyone,

you know, they’ve been running together

for years and

uh so he goes alright guys so run over

to the

field blah blah blah the same route as

usual and we’ll we’ll meet and stretch

out

and uh i was like i don’t know how to

get there you know i’ve never done this

before

and they’re like oh just follow us it’s

no problem. two miles later, so keep in

mind i’ve never run a mile in my life,

two miles later we get to this spot and

everyone’s stretching out

and i’m dying! i’m already done, you know?

i’ve never run a mile before, and i just

had to do a two-mile “warm-up”.

i’m done. i’m cooke.d um so the coach is

all mad

and he’s like hurry up and stretch and

then meet us over at the uh the track

so i hurry up i stretch real quick i run

over the track

and he’s explaining what the next

exercise is going to be, he’s talking

about “mile repeats”

and you know i’m like hey coach what’s a

“mile repeat”?

and he looks at me like i’ve got a third

eyeball and he goes “you run a mile

and then you repeat it” and i was like

what?

“you run a mile and then you repeat it”. i

was like “well how many times?”

He’s like “as many as you can” so

we were just running and running and

running and he was telling me the goal

was that each mile that you ran was

supposed to be faster than the last one

and it was just anyway that went on for

an entire season

by the end of the season i never wanted

to look at another pair of running shoes

again

i was always the slowest in all the

races because i’ve never done it before

um but you know it was a learning

experience yeah

all right so when you guys met who asked

who out first? did he ask you out? do you

ask him out or was

it more kind of like the modern thing

where you guys just started kind of

hanging out and then?

yeah um we started hanging out like as

friends for

like maybe like a month. okay yeah so

it’s new year’s eve

um so we were like yes i met him we were

kind of hung out here and there

and he asked me out for valentine’s day.

oh okay now did you find that sweet or

did you find it cheesy

or? no it was sweet i just i think at

first

i didn’t know like i just he was like a

friend

so um but

i think it was like a week after the

whole valentine’s date

we were like officially like boyfriend

and girlfriend so. cool.

okay yeah so how long did you guys date

before you ended up pulling the trigger

and getting married?

so we actually got pregnant before we

got married

so um um so we got pregnant with my

with the twins and then um when the

twins were

i think eight months we got pregnant

with our last son

and so we didn’t get married until 2014.

okay so yeah like five six years or so

since yeah i think it’s gonna be six

years this year.

all right so you guys definitely knew

each other it wasn’t one of those things

where it was like a week later you’re

getting married and your family’s going

what are you doing?

yeah yeah yeah okay that’s cool

were you a “kid person” before you started

having kids?

no. okay, did you imagine yourself having

kids or were you kind of on the fence?

not really i mean not that i didn’t

imagine myself having kids i think i

i think i knew maybe eventually one day

i would have children i just didn’t

um expect it to happen so soon.

um because i’m a young mom i was i had

two kids by my 21st birthday

um so i think that’s what it is i before

them though like the only kids i were i

was ever around were my nephews and i

loved my nephews but like any other

children i

you know i wasn’t one of those girls who

was like oh how cute your baby’s so cute

like i could care less if that was your

baby like i don’t

know but i wasn’t, so it’s crazy. well

that’s neat. i mean

yeah i uh you know i’m not really that

big of a “kid person”

but um my sister just had a baby not too

long ago

and i love being an uncle because my

niece is adorable

yeah she’s fun to hang out with and then

when she starts throwing a tantrum i’m

just like

okay mom you need to uh come get paisley.

yeah yeah i think feel like it’s kind of

the best of both worlds for me

personally because

i get all the benefits of having an

adorable child but

none of the responsibilities. yep

but i do admire people who like to have

kids because obviously you know the

world needs people i suppose.

exactly. all right let’s move on to some

motorcycle

questions so i think i saw in one of

your videos that you said that you

started thinking about riding a

motorcycle

based on parking. yes. is that truly true

or

do you think you had any like…? i mean i

never really thought of it before

um like when i met my husband

he rode and um

like i never really thought anything of

it and it didn’t really cross my mind for

me to ever ride

um but yeah the main reason was because

i was going to community college and the

parking is horrible there

um and i was always you know driving

around trying to find parking and these

bikes were just like zoom right in and

just park and like

go to class and it would drive me crazy

so i was like i want to

that’s like one of the big pushers for

me was like i just

when i first envisioned me right i was

like i’m only going to ride to school

like that’s all it’s really going to be

for

and whatever um i didn’t think i would

like fall in love with it so much.

so let me ask you this, so if if your

idea was to ride to school

what made you go with um a brand new

indian?

so okay i’ve always wanted

and not always but i always liked

indians like,

this is crazy, so when i was pregnant

with my first two

twins i was put on bed rest and so all i

did was watch

tv and i was obsessed with the show

american pickers i don’t know if you’ve

ever watched it? i’ve seen it i have yeah.

yeah

okay it’s funny i was literally watching

it before i came on here with you

it’s on right now it’s like marathon all

day um

but i loved that show and and that’s

where i learned about the brand

indian was through um through mike which

is one of the guys on the show

and he loved the brand he would always

just praise it and i would learn a

little history about it like you know

with every episode so in my mind that

always kind of stuck

out like indian motorcycle kind of

always stuck out and i

kind of associate it with like old and

vintage and i love that kind of stuff

like i eat that shit up

so that’s kind of where it started was

like i wanted like an indian

you know yeah same thing with a bobber

like the whole like

bobber thing kind of same thing 1940s

and i love the 40s and

stripping everything down because they

needed it for something you know all of

that

um so when the bobber my husband sent me

a picture of the bobber

um i believe it was before was even

released and um

it was before it was released actually

and i was like oh my god

that bike is like beautiful there’s not

many, like i said before he wrote he rode

a sports bike and it didn’t like catch

my eye, i never liked

bikes didn’t turn my head um but that

one did

and so it was just, you know when you

know.

so i mean i’m a fan of basically all

motorcycles but i will say

to me most sport bikes kind of look like

bugs um to varying degrees

so aesthetically i’m not that

interested in sport bikes and i’m not a

speed demon you know so the performance..

I’m the same..

but what does get me is i do like the

stunt riding people do on them.

um oh i see. you know like i like seeing

people popping wheelies and doing

burnouts

that kind of stuff interests me but i’m

too new of a rider to really even think

about that sort of a thing right now

um the indians were beautiful i was

i mean i just bought my first bike

in april and um it was down to

an indian scout um or the

iron 883 from harley and i ended up

going with the harley

mostly because i’ve always liked

harley’s

um and kind of thought, i mean i never

really thought about riding a motorcycle

until i went to nicaragua and uh got on

one my friend was showing me how to ride

um

i always thought it was too dangerous

for the amount of fun that you’d have

with it

yeah. but then you sit on the bike and

you’re like this is way more fun

than i thought it was going to be god

damn it i’m hooked!

but anyway kind of get back though to

your indian uh

adventure, i’m just, you know, personally i

do accounting as my day job

and so when i’m thinking, you know, i want

to get like access to

close parking i want it to be cheap i

don’t think let’s go with a brand new

you know moderately priced bike you know

so what yeah you ever consider is going

with something like used and reliable

like a honda

rebel or something or did you always go

i want something beautiful?

i didn’t even know what a honda rebel

was until i took my chp course.

so but no i think so when i think

used i think like old like i would get

like a super like vintage looking one

and i think

my husband was kind of like it needs to

be reliable it needs to be

um you know and it helps that my husband

was like willing to like

spend the money on it you know um so i

was kind of like

why not yeah i definitely didn’t really

ever

look at used ones and if

used ones ever came up it was more of

like because my husband’s looking at

different bikes you know

maybe he wants a different bike or

whatever it might be. yeah yeah.

okay well that’s cool. i mean i kind of

went down the same route i originally

was

considering getting sort of an older

used bike because i figured i’d beat it

up

i’ve never ridden a bike before you know

i just passed my msf course

and i was like if i get something nice

i’m just gonna ding it up

you know maybe i’ll go with something

cheap and then i started looking at the

the prices of the cheap things versus

just getting

something new and negotiating the price

hard and

um i just know my luck with used cars

and i was like if my luck with used

bikes is anything like used cars

i should just go with something new so

yeah i switched my mind and just went

with something new because i don’t know

anything mechanically like i can’t

do anything besides change oil in a car

you know? yeah.

yeah no i i get it i kind of same. yeah.

so i’m with your husband,

i went the reliable route too you know

yeah. just have it be reliable and

hopefully there’s no issues, major

issues.

um how long did it take you to make your

decision on what bike to get?

um not long but really because i think

ever since

that text message from him with the

picture of the bike

it was like there was just no other bike

that was gonna cover yeah the only other

one that i considered was the

triumph um bobber and

i think i even saw that one at my

dealership um

but there’s something about and i like

triumphs like if i were to get another

bike because i have two indians if i

were to get a third

bike possibly i don’t know because i

think i feel like i would get a bagger

and i probably wouldn’t go

triumph because i’m getting a bagger so if i were

to get like a fourth bike

i would get a triumph i wouldn’t mind

having to triumph in my garage basically

i like triumphs i just like i said i

just

after even now like something like i see

other bikes

i just there’s not a bike that can beat

the bobber.

but um you mentioned bagger, that’s quite

a difference from a bobber though that’s

basically the opposite of a bobber. it

really is. i think it’s just because

um because my bobber is so bobbed out

like it’s really uncomfortable um like

i ride it around town like i rode it to

school

um you know whatever here and there i i

really can’t go very long on it without

like

just wanting to it’s just really

uncomfortable

um but there’s situations that come up

where like i want to travel

but i want to ride and even with the ftr

the ftr is really not that comfortable

either.

um it’s still more comfortable than the

bobber but it’s still not

i i want like a big cruiser i think.

i mean not like tomorrow you know maybe

when my kids get older and i can travel.

yeah yeah, no, i’m only curious because

again usually like if you’re drawn to

the bobber style

the the baggers aren’t as appealing you

know? yeah.

um so they’re not but i would probably

make it look nice.

oh i’ve seen some beautiful looking

beautiful looking baggers i’m not a

bagger fan myself either i’m more of a

stripped down like i love

like the more stripped down it is the

more i like it the less fairings it has

the better it looks to me you know what

i mean yeah um

oh yeah i i went to um a bike week

cave creek bike week out here in arizona

uh before i rode i was just helping out

with the charity we were we were doing

some fundraising

um at the event and i saw this guy

ride by with this bike and it was the first

time i’d seen a bobber. i was like oh

god what is that thing? what is that? you know

what it means i went up and talked to

him about it he’s like oh this is a

bobber and he was like showing me all

the stuff that he like pulled off

it to make it look like that and i was

just like

if i ever get a bike i want something

like that you know

anyway so the bagger thing like i get i

keep hearing everyone talk about how

comfortable they are

yeah but aesthetically i feel like

there’s really two different types of

people you either like sort of a bobber

style

or you like that bagger style and you

got the people in the middle but then

they usually buy kind of a standard like

a soft tail or

you know what I means something like

that and then you can move up like a road

king

yeah yeah. so okay

that’s cool um let’s see… you did mention

that your husband

rides what is he currently riding? so

he doesn’t really okay so he rides but

he doesn’t

ride like i don’t know if that makes

sense i think it’s just kind of more of

like

the timing like in our lives right now i

guess

so he works full-time and because i’m a

stay-at-home mom and full-time student

um you he’s kind of constantly working

and so

his job too requires him to drive a big

truck so it’s not like he can ride the

bike

um to work or anything like that so he

doesn’t

like he rides maybe like once a week if

he if he

if that. and so and he’ll just ride

either of the indians to be honest so

it’s just kind of like…

oh so he doesn’t have his own specific

bike right now?

i mean i wouldn’t uh

kinda. i mean what’s mine is his

but like it’s it’s cool though because

like we’re

similar but at the same time i mean when

it comes to the bikes like we kind of

have similar taste

um but then again like i’m speaking in

terms of like modifications on the bikes

usually we have similar but there’s also

times where like i’m like no like i’m

sorry i’m not listening to you and i

want to do this to the bike

so um but then it grows on him

so there’s no like major issues yeah

he’s just kind of like

just chill he’s like the most chill

person.

so what happened to his um crotch rocket

then?

Um he sold it. okay. Yeah that was a long time ago. okay did he sell it to

buy one of the bikes or was that?

i’m sorry? did he sell it to buy one of

the current bikes or was that,

i guess you just said it was a long time

ago. he sold it just because

um life you know i was pregnant

and we needed to get a house i i didn’t

have a reliable car

like that kind of stuff yeah and he had

like a truck too

like a lowered like fixed up truck when i

met him

like you know bagged and everything and

he sold that too

well you know twins can be unexpected

and expensive so

yeah so why the ftr as your second bike?

what what drew you to that

bike? so i think the main thing that drew

me to that bike was that it was

different from the bobber

and that i would learn how to

ride different style bikes like i feel

like

and not that like my bike is small or

anything i felt like my bike is kind of

easy to learn to ride on and i didn’t

feel

confident enough if i were to go and

like test ride another bike

or um like especially a higher bike

because the ftr is definitely a lot

higher

um and also i just wanted to i just want

to be an all-around good

rider i want to be able to jump on any

bike and ride it and be confident

and the ftr is intimidating as fuck

so um and not only that it’s just a nice

it’s a nice bike i’m not

attracted to those type of bikes to be

honest like any kind of like sport

looking

dirt bike i’m just not um but that one’s

different

and right okay let me correct myself

so stock it’s like uh um i saw a picture

of a um

jimmy burnout i’m not sure if you know

who he is but he has that bike

and he has like certain modifications to

it like an exhaust and everything

that’s the bike that i saw that i was

like oh my god i want that bike

and not the ftr that is stock from the

dealership

which right now my ftr is still stock

so it drives me crazy like looks wise

it’s not

i wasn’t like drawn completely because

of looks to it

um but i have a really clear vision of

what i want to do to it

to make it look more like me. yeah i was

going to say, i mean if if um

you compare it to the bobber, i mean

aesthetically it’s i would say not as

pretty,

you know what i mean? it’s definitely

kind of utilitarian you know? like it looks

like it’s got a purpose more

more than like the the bobbers which

look like they look cool sound cool

you know it’s like. i get more, because i

obviously ride both of them, i get

more like head turns on the bobber than

i do on the ftr

um like and just be parking it people

will come up to me and talk to me about

the bobber

whereas the ftr people just like kind

of look at it like whatever it’s just

another bike

like the bobber has this ability to draw

people’s attention and the the person

doesn’t even necessarily have to be into

motorcycles they just look at it and be like

that’s a nice bike

um and then it’s kind of like that

cherry on top when

especially when it’s like older people

i’ve noticed when they find out it’s an

indian they’re just kind of like oh my

god like that’s an indian

and like what year is it they start

talking to me about the bike um

sometimes i feel like when i tell people

the ftr’s an indian they don’t believe me

like that’s not an indian because it’s so

different looking like indian has never

made anything like it. so i’m like yeah

no it’s in indian.

i promise. well you know it’s interesting

because um,

i was seeing a lot of really good

reviews, like people who ride it seem to

really like it,

yeah. um but for me, it was it was a

little bit out of left field because you

look at

what indian’s been making and they

seem to focus really heavily on making

beautiful bikes because they are

you know indian makes these beautiful

bikes and then the ftr

came out and i was looking at it i was

like, did they use a different design

team because

they they have such great taste in like

99 percent

of their bikes and then, i’m not saying

the ftr’s ugly, the ftr is definitely not

ugly

it’s just that when you set the bar as

high as they have with their styling

and then you come out with something

that looks good then you go,

you know, hey? like but then you start to

hear again

so you you see the people riding it and

how much fun they’re having and then you

kind of

you know they they put the time into the

performance aspect it sounds like.

mm-hmm. to make it. absolutely. yeah yeah

and then

that’s when it kind of clicked to me i

was like okay so they’re trying to shift

focus get a whole new

market of people who are more interested

in performance

um and still and it has some of that

indian

style it just didn’t go like full indian

style in my mind.

yeah i i absolutely agree. yeah

but you can still make it look good i

have i promise like

months from now it’s going to look a lot

nicer.

like I have seen a few of them online

that definitely look like people put

some work into them and they look better

but

i do agree with you stock there a little

bit… it’s almost

they’re not plane you know. it’s the

exhaust.

is that what you think? i think it’s the

exhaust

like i don’t really i’m not a fan of it

it’s just so huge and

bulky and… yeah.

i think for me i think it might be the

fork color or something but…

i hate the forks too! um

i don’t like the gold i think it looks

real um tacky.

so yeah i mean i think like uh i don’t

know it’s kind of hard

i don’t think that anybody can purchase

maybe everyone’s different can purchase

a bike

off the lot all stock and like be like

it’s perfect for

me. i think we all have different tastes

and um

that’s something i love about you know

motorcycles and

is modifying it to be yours.

um so i’m yeah i have stuff planned

um for the ftr my exhaust should be

ready by the end of this

week um and so yeah.

yeah. i um i don’t think i would go as

far as you

with the with the forks you know um but

they were just like

i felt like that with maybe you’re right

maybe it is the exhaust it was like a

combination there’s like little things

where i was just like this bike has got

a lot of potential

but yeah it’s just for me aesthetically

it it missed but then again

i’m like watching all these reviews of

people loving riding it and then i

found myself like man

if this stupid state ever opens up again

i’d love to go test ride one.

everyone that testifies it loves it

follows you know what the funny thing is

is that

i hadn’t even sat on the bike until i

went to go purchase it

like when we went to go and buy it that

was my first time sitting on it and

mostly because i knew in my head i was

going to psych myself

out because it was going to be really

tall and i was going to be tiptoeing it

and i was gonna be like no no i can’t do

it like i’m not good enough or i’m not

good enough right or not experienced

enough

um but then again i started on the scout

bobber which is a

pretty big bike for me um power wise and

so

my husband was like no you’re fine you

can do it like he’s like that like we’re

all like you got this

and so yeah that was my first time even

sitting on it

um and then like of course i think i

rode it the next day i was afraid to go

ride it that when we brought it home

and i was going like super slow

on the streets i was like ahhhh. Oh i mean, i

had mine delivered to my house so

i can’t uh i can’t say much.

i uh you know i did the msf course but

you know it’s all in the parking lot

and my previous experience um riding

was in nicaragua in um like a grass

field

you know so i’d never been on the street

with cars before yeah and you know with

the whole situation that’s going

on right now i didn’t want to be out and

about anyway um and plus most things

were closed

um so i called harley on a whim like

hey are you guys still selling bikes?

and luckily they were and they were able

to deliver it and um

it’s been it’s been a lot of fun. i’ve

been doing a lot of like parking lot

practice stuff

um have you ever heard of moto jitsu?

no. oh my gosh.

i actually i have his hat outside right

now drying because i washed it

um it just came in today and it’s been

the hat that this hat sucks

uh but seeing what i’ve gotten i’ve got

the covid hair so it’s like all like

long and poofy… anyway

so i needed a hat and i ordered this um

hat from motojitsu a long time ago

it’s through teespring on youtube you

know so i thought it was going to be

fast

but i guess they’re getting hit hard

with the whole you know

shut down so it took like forever to get

the hat

anyway it’s outside. moto jitsu, that’s

beside the point, he is

a youtuber and he’s actually based uh

somewhere in california

he does the courses like he’s a teacher

for a bunch of the courses

and he’s got a youtube channel and he

also has books out so i bought his book

um the moto jitsu

yeah he goes by fast eddie is his

nickname

and he basically just gives you all

these different tips and tricks on how

to like

get better riding your motorcycle and so

his book actually has

all the drills with the measurements and

everything so i bought some cones i

bought one of those little sticks that

you can like measure distance from

yeah there’s a parking lot near me as go

set them up and i do the drills you know

i use the measured drills probably once

a week and then i basically try to do

some emergency stopping and swerving

basically every time i ride the bike

either you know before i leave to go for

my ride

or when i’m almost home i’ll stop buying

a parking lot near my house

just because you know

i saw people in my msf class that had

been riding motorcycles on the street

for years

and they were having so much trouble

with like the basics

because riding on the street is a little

bit different than really being able to

um like do these low speed maneuvers and

and even emergency stopping which could

save your life these people

couldn’t do it properly you know um

so. yeah yeah they offer a like a second

like intermediate

course i know like the chp one here in

california does

and i want to take that, especially with

the ftr

because the bobber i’m pretty confident

on and um

and i can stop pretty well but i know i

was actually just talking to my husband

about

it like just two days ago maybe that i

still

fear like like i downshift too fast on

the ftr because i’m afraid i’m not gonna

stop in time by time i get to the light

um and it just kind of yeah i would

definitely i mean there’s no there’s no

shame in taking those courses

you know especially like the

intermediate ones and you know i know

i’ve been riding for almost two years

but um it’s a new style bike for me so.

well i think um you know one of the

things that they talk or

he talks about on his channel is that

you know you can upgrade your bike and

that’s kind of upgrading hardware

but it’s actually more important to

upgrade the software

you know which is your body and your

mind’s reaction

um and you know

yeah you’ll you’ll be surprised i mean

emergency braking

especially that’s one thing i’ve been

focused on a lot um because the

perception that you have

of how far you actually need to stop i

mean they probably do the same thing i

hear it’s called an msf course in

california it sounds like it’s called

something different

but um did they did they do that

demonstration in your guys’s class where

they made you like guess how long it was

gonna take them to stop by putting a

cone out

and then actually hitting the brakes not

a guess but

we had to stop so we had to get up to

i think third gear maybe and then we had

to downshift and stop

and we couldn’t like pass a certain

distance like we had to stop within that

distance

yeah yeah um i was one of those people i

did horrible in my chp course

i didn’t think they were going to pass

me well i think that

um you know at least in our class they

were talking about how

most people have like a certain range

you fall in and like every single class

you know there’s everyone’s kind of in

the middle some people might be a little

bit better some like people might be a

little bit worse but pretty much

everyone’s in the middle

um most classes and i think

you know as long as you pass and if you

keep practicing especially so keep

practicing

um i mean that was a long time ago i’m

definitely a lot better rider now

but um i don’t do well under pressure

and i don’t do well

with like all eyes on me and that’s kind

of how it felt because you had you know

you go one by one

and um it’s funny because i was stalling

like crazy

and i just couldn’t yeah i was just it

was all in my head it was more of like a

mental thing for me

so oh i completely understand i mean um

i’m not much of a public speaker either

and yeah when i’m doing like um youtube

lives or something like that and if i

get too well mostly instagram because

i’ve got a photography business on the

side and so my my photography accounts

got like

it’s not that big a couple thousand or

something but um either way sometimes

when i go live on there i’ll get a

couple hundred people and then it feels

like i’m on the spot and i’m just like

i can’t talk you know what i mean

yeah so i totally get it so

okay i noticed that um a lot of women

right now are starting to ride

more than in the past but it still seems

like

they’re lagging behind the men obviously

as far as numbers are concerned

what do you think brands could do if

anything

to get more women interested in riding

motorcycles

what brands can do um i think the

one thing that is kind of

important is maybe advertising to women

um and that could be either like

commercials or

instagram social media um

i don’t make us feel like we’re welcome

in the community because i think it’s

obviously

very male dominant but i also think that

they cater to the men

more than they do to the women like i

mean

i think that there has been some change

but still

i don’t i think it’s the for us women

we’re not stupid

and like the whole advertising thing can

be kind of like either hit or miss

um and i’m one of those people

that like if i see like an advertiser

whether it be like a poster

a commercial whatever and it’s like a

freaking like model sitting on a bike

who obviously doesn’t know

how to ride then i’m not gonna be sold

if i see somebody that i can relate to

you then i can see myself

and be like oh like i can do that you

know um

so i think that they don’t do a very

good job at that

and i think

i think it’s like most no i’m not gonna

call out brands but i think it’s

most of them i mean i think that it’s

fair to say if you look at most of the

advertisements

for the different motorcycles you’re

either going to have

primarily men in the ads or depending on

the brand you might have like

the hot girl on a bike like you said who

doesn’t really

ride um yeah you know

and my thing is like personally i’m not

against a hot girl on a bike as long as

um it’s a hot girl who actually rides a

bike

you know i mean because if you look on

instagram now there’s plenty of women

who are both models

and um you know bikers like they truly

love motorcycles so

i feel like the brand wants to go that

route

at least they could pick someone from

the community instead of just like some

random

random model you know yeah like i just

feel like why pay

somebody who really isn’t even that

interested when you can

pay someone who

i don’t know i mean they possibly bought

your buying so like you already mean

it’s like you’re even

yeah yeah well i mean not only that but

um i think

that people can you know they can smell

bullshit to some degree

right and you know i think that

when i was going through some of my

marketing classes um

years ago they were talking about how

people value authenticity

and i think that you know like you were

saying being able to see more people who

you can relate to on a motorcycle would

have

you know probably helped other women too

you know

bikes and i think that comes down to

authenticity and

you know if you’re just going with

someone who’s just a model but not

really interested

in motorcycles and on two different

fronts now

they’ve disconnected from their audience

you know not everyone’s a model number

one and then number two you if you can

tell the person doesn’t know what

they’re doing on a bike

then it doesn’t seem authentic either

so yeah yeah it’s yeah i agree with you

it it really doesn’t i don’t

yeah i don’t know um i know like

i’m not sure if you know this but that i

was in an indian motorcycle magazine

um it was the um

it was their writers group magazine and

they asked

six of us real writers to be a part of

it and so

i thought that was really cool and for

one i was excited because like i got to

be a part of it

but i think i was more excited about the

fact that it was like real

riders like real owners who

purchase their bikes and love their

bikes and

rep their bikes and they’re asking us to

um

to kind of re represent their their

brand and so that was really cool that

was like a really i don’t know

if they’re going to continue to go into

that direction

i know that this was the first time

they’ve done it so um and if you look at

the other riders

um that were in it not just me were very

diverse

and so that was cool to see too you

don’t see very many

um like especially lying women being

represented in the motorcycle community

so especially even with my brat indian

you know i think

harley does a decent job at being more

inclusive

but i don’t think india has really done

so great

well so what i would say um

is indian

is you know it’s owned by polaris right

i mean you obviously know that

um and polaris i mean they are great

business people

but i don’t know have you ever looked at

their board of directors or their

c-suite

uh if you if you go to their website and

you you look at

the people who are in uh the upper the

senior management

and on their board of directors it’s

just a sea

a sea of white people .oh i see. that’s

all it is.

so they basically got no diversity in

their upper management so

it’s not shocking to me that it’s taking

them a little bit longer maybe

um you know…. to realize it?… jump on the

idea that oh maybe our advertisement

should be a little more diverse

yeah yeah yeah i

but i mean i think that they’ll get it

to be honest i think that um

i think with time and times are changing

so i think that they’ll start to

pick up on it and i mean more and more

women are riding like it’s a whole

market that they’re gonna miss out on if

they don’t

jump on it yeah so um i don’t know i

think it was uh

oh i don’t want to miss i don’t want to

misquote this woman’s instagram handle

i think she’s like ladyrider or

something on instagram

but uh she just did a video where

um she was talking about how women um

female writers are the fastest growing

group of new motorcycle

writers in the market yeah so you’ve

heard that too

yeah so any company that’s not at least

considering what they can do

to get some more of that market share is

crazy

and let’s say you know i heard some

criticism that you know that they’re

using polling versus

um insurance numbers you know because

obviously if you get insurance data then

you know who’s insuring the bike since a

little bit more

accurate than just sending out a poll

hey do you right or not are you a woman

or a man

yeah you know but even if you just

consider the fact that you know most

writers are men

then you know that the most potential to

gain

new writers has got to be in the group

that’s not writing

yeah right

yes it makes sense but you know yeah

people get on board eventually

yeah they will hopefully all right so

let’s get into the indian ambassador

stuff

um how long after writing did

it take before indian contacted you

about maybe being an indian ambassador

yeah well so like i mean i guess i

wouldn’t consider myself like an

ambassador

but i guess i can see how people

would um okay so the first time

go ahead yeah okay so so you’re not an

official ambassador because i know

harley’s got ambassadors i don’t know

what indian calls them i assumed that

you were related to them in some way

because they had you in the magazine and

you know i think that they’ve sent you

like shirts and gear or something before

so

um what what do they kind of think of

you i don’t

know what i i honestly feel like i’m

just a writer like i’m a writer and

they happen to stumble across um

my instagram and asked to be part of the

shoe

um i don’t necessarily like

yeah i don’t know i don’t know how to

like explain our relationship i guess

you could say

i think that it’s kind of like um one of

those

i don’t know it sounds very 2020

relationship you know

right like there’s no official title

we haven’t really we’re talking you’re

talking

yeah basically i mean i have a good

relationship with them and so i don’t

um but at the same time like i

i think they’re like that with a lot of

um like platforms like i know that they

gave a guy

on youtube a bike for 30 days to ride

and test ride and so

i think a lot of brands are starting to

um

realize the power of social media and

influencers and youtubers and so they’re

kind of

like testing it out and um

so we’ll see where it leads us you know

i don’t know

what it’ll do so and it’ll lead me

that makes perfect sense though because

a lot of people are doing what they call

cord cutting right

so fewer and fewer people have cable tv

now

and everyone’s kind of moving to youtube

um i mean i can tell you i don’t even

own a tv

so i get all of my

i don’t watch a lot of tv but when i do

it’s like netflix um

what’s the other one i think i’ve got

stars um

i think because i’ve got amazon prime

i’ve got amazon prime

video but i really i mean i probably

watch

an hour or two of um quote-unquote tv

but i watch a lot of youtube you know

got you

and so if advertisers are smart they’re

going to start doing what these guys are

doing which is you know hey

try this bike show your audience um

instagram a lot like i

you know i saw a lot of the um content

you were producing which really

introduced me more deeply into indian

because um

and actually one of the reasons i

started considering indian as one of the

bikes was because i saw so many of your

pictures

of those um the indian scouts and i was

just like oh my god that is a beautiful

bike so

i have gotten messages from people

saying that they bought the bike because

of me

um because of my page and

um even not just the bike itself but

like modifications i’ve done to the bike

i’ll get you know what did you do to

this what did you use

like you know and so um but it’s crazy

to think that and

i think indian as a business is

realizing that that how much of a

like influence influencers have

um because i’ve lost count of how many

people have told me that

they’ve gotten the bobber because of my

page

yeah i was legitimately set on the iron

883

and then i kept i kept seeing your posts

and i kept looking at

that bobber going oh my god that thing

is so pretty it is and

so i seriously i seriously started

considering it to the point where i was

sending screenshots of both bikes to

my friends and family going which one do

you like better

you know and it was pretty much split 50

  1. so they didn’t help me at all

yeah um that’s so funny

but but yeah so i mean social media

works

yeah oh yeah let’s see

um all right so kind of along the same

lines as far as you know this ambiguous

relationship

with uh indian that you have what are

some of the things that indian has done

for you as a creator

um so they’ve given me so for one i got

to do the magazine

um i’ve been featured on their page um

i’ve been asked to do like a voice

over thing for their page as well i’m

just talking about like why i chose uh

indian um and so yeah like

basically just that i know like i’ll

probably team up with them when i do a

giveaway

um probably when i hit like 20k

in my mind is what i’m thinking is when

i’ll do it um

so yeah so things like that i mean i got

a lot of like

um gear i guess and swag from them when

i

did the magazine shoot so that was

really cool

but um other than that you know that’s

it

okay um

so you know i mean i’m sure i already

know the answer to this

but um you talk a lot on your social

media about how much you enjoy pinup

how well do you feel that the bobber has

been fitting into that whole

pinup aesthetic that you have going yeah

i think it fits

in like perfectly did you have a

different bike in mind

when you first were considering the

pin-up look or

you know no okay

no like it’s so crazy like i mean

i guess not necessarily like one

particular like anything

old so if it was like a 1940s bike

um then i would love it but again like i

didn’t ever see myself purchasing one

even if i do

purchase one in the future it’s kind of

one of more of those like trophy pieces

where

i would write it here and there show it

off take it to shows or whatnot

um but the bobber just kind of fit that

like

modern vintage feel that i was going for

and um i don’t like to give myself like

a title title but like i would consider

myself to be like a modern

vintage person like i have vintage

um styles but yeah i’m still i’m very

modern

still and i felt like the bobber was

like that the indian

i mean i when i park it and people come

up to it they still

are surprised that it’s a 2018 they

think it’s like an older indian

that i just took really good care of so

did you um did you have an interest in

pinup before the bike or

um was it sort of something that kind of

grew along with the bike

um interesting pinup you said right yeah

yeah

no i’ve always loved pinup

i’ve always loved like the kind of

rockabilly

um error like what the women

i mean for me like the 1940s is when

women

kind of you know got out of the houses

and they

started working oh my gosh my cat almost

knocked this over

um anyway so yeah like it was when

you know it was during the war and women

were like stepping up their

working game and doing like all

badass type of stuff and but at the same

time

the models then were the models on like

the

the you know the bomber pinup yeah

models like i just i don’t know there’s

something about like the 1940s that

i was always drawn to and so

i felt like i had like a

past life in the 40s

your past life wasn’t that far along far

back huh it really wasn’t no

i i say that all the time i was like and

in the 50s

i like going in my cat is like adorable

say hi gwen hi

oh she’s really clingy so she’s gonna

lay here for a second

i am absolutely stunned that my cats

haven’t come over here

um all day today during work because

this is my work desk as well uh

all day they were climbing my lap they

were sitting right here on this desk

they were trying to get on my keyboard

they climb my leg and make me scream

because i’ll be like fast at work you

know like watching my screen and then

all of a sudden i just feel these like

little kitten claws

coming up my leg that’s adorable

oh they are adorable and it’s it’s

horrible because we got too many animals

already so we’ve got

four permanent cats that are in the

house we’ve got a dog

and then now we’ve got these two new

kittens we had four kittens we adopted

two of them out

and um so we got two left and

i think they’re gonna end up staying but

we’ll see

so do you guys like um foster cats or

kittens or

kind of so no i want to do that so badly

that’s why i asked

my neighborhood has a lot of cats

so there is a stray cat that has

discovered

our back patio is a great place to have

kittens

so we’ve got two kittens from her

previous litter already

that makes two of our four permanent

cats are her last two kittens

and we didn’t catch her to get her fixed

and

um she had disappeared from the yard and

the next time we saw her

my girlfriend came in and she goes oh my

god

i said i said what she goes i think i

hear kittens out there

and i saw mama cat in the backyard

that’s what we call we call her mama cat

yeah and i was like no and she said yeah

and i went outside i didn’t hear any

kittens i didn’t see mama cat so i was

like ah

whatever maybe not you know and then

maybe a few days later i went outside

because my dog is super old and you know

i let him out and in

and i was standing outside with him just

kind of keep an eye on things

and i hear meow

and i look over on my patio underneath

my patio chair

and there’s a little orange face staring

at me

and i was like no there are kittens

anyway so now we we brought them in when

they got old enough and we fostered

yeah but yeah we’re hoping to catch mama

cat we’ve got a trap

in the car and i’ve got a can of uh

sardines that i plan on using to to

catch her but

yeah we got to get her fixed because i

can’t keep taking any more kittens you

know

yeah i’m too much of a softy have a hard

time getting rid of them because i’m

always like

what if i give them to someone who’s

like that and i would feel bad if i give

them to someone they treat them badly

yeah it’s just uh yeah it’s it’s tough

for me

i’m too much of a softy for animals

all right so let’s see what uh what can

we go next let’s talk about some sort of

sponsorship stuff do you have

sponsors currently at all yeah like i

get

sponsored from a lot of um like clothing

companies

and um a couple of like

moto brands um my

i think like i feel like my exhaust is

going to be my biggest one

which i don’t want to give away yet

because i feel like i’m trying to keep

it as a surprise

for what exhaust i get on the ftr so

um yeah that one’s been in the works for

a while so this podcast is probably an

account in august

so if you plan on releasing it before i

don’t

know because like i said it’s been a

long time that i’ve been waiting for

it so um it could be in a week

like they said but then they said that

like a month ago

so i don’t know okay well we’ll we’ll

keep it quiet for now are there no

no worries um because i just know that

when people get really curious i know i

get really curious about like

once people start getting recognized by

brands

not just the motorcycle brands but by

the um like the clothing companies you

know

the the grip makers the you know all the

little

bibs and bobs that that go around um

like how long does it take before people

start really

contacting you like you feel like it’s

an account size do you feel like

i think it’s like account size i think

and maybe

like how much work you put into your but

so i’m one of those

influencers moto influencers um that

likes to modify her bike so and i’m not

saying that like the other ones don’t

um but i’m not one of those like i throw

slip-ons on my exhaust and i’m good to

go

like i want to do like a whole like i’ve

got

all kinds of custom tune and exhaust and

rear fender i just ordered and

turn signals and headlight and bar and

grips and everything so i do it all

um and so like for me i think companies

maybe notice that and like okay this

person

really likes to do things for their bike

um

so let’s contact them also with that

being said

though i tend to choose brands that

aren’t necessarily

big and don’t um do sponsorships like

that

simply because i like that piece better

so i will

pay for something over something for

free

a sponsor because i like it better so

i’m not like one of those also like it’s

like i wouldn’t take whatever you give

me like i’ve told people no because i’m

like

that’s not really the look i’m going for

um so

no i mean you know that that makes

perfect sense

you know you don’t want to have to be

you know wearing stuff that you don’t

enjoy

just because it’s free you know it’s one

thing if someone pays you i feel like

but if it’s just like hey here’s some

free free shirts and then you know

exactly i think like a perfect example

would be like my exhaust is not even for

my bobber

um i’ve gotten so many people

it’s notoriously loud my my exhaust um

but they don’t they don’t even have an

instagram

you know anything so it wasn’t like i

was gonna get anything out of it i

wasn’t gonna get

tags and shares and followers it was

more of like

this exhaust flows really nice with the

bike and it sounds

really good i want that one yeah yeah so

everyone’s mindset’s different

so that reminds me you live in

california

yes and you have an exhaust yes i have

not gotten pulled over did you did you

keep your stock exhaust just in case

so that’s tricky because i’m very

rebellious

and um i did keep my stock exhaust

except that i chopped my exhaust and i

removed the baffles from the stock

exhaust

so i know technically

it’s still stuck

but um you know yeah there’s that log

but

they don’t really care at least in my

opinion they don’t i mean i’ve had my

exhaust on my bike for

a year and a half and um

i’ve gotten pulled over once for

speeding and they didn’t mention my

exhaust okay well i just um

i watched you you’ve heard of laidlaw um

no the dealership

i mean you’re you’re you know an indian

girl but uh

it’s a harley dealership and this guy uh

late i think his name’s michael laidlaw

he’s got his own youtube channel and he

just started his own podcast as well

and uh he does it with their their uh

their head mechanic i forget what it’s

called but basically it’s him and his

head mechanic

and they were just talking about how

california has started finding

um people for even selling non-stock

exhaust

in california so

to some degree it seems like they take

it seriously but then you were talking

about

but if you know someone who lives out of

state

and they can purchase it for you and

then send it to you

because yeah there are companies that

you can’t buy you can’t buy it from

yeah yeah like they were talking about

how the harley catalog for instance has

all these different

options but they’re not available in a

lot of the state or not available in

california even if they are available in

other states because

california is so strict um with that

stuff like i guess

um you know the dealership can be fined

the i think he was saying even the

person who’s like behind the counter who

sold it might be able to get fined

don’t quote me on that but that’s how

crazy it was

about the whole stupid exhaust thing um

yeah i believe it because i know that

there’s companies that you can’t get

your exhaust shipped here in california

so

but i also think there’s ways around it

and

i don’t really understand that law to be

honest just because

i i have kind of two perspectives where

i have one bike that’s really loud

and then i have the ftr that still has

exhaust uh stock exhaust that sounds

like a freaking sewing machine

and there’s so many times where cars

don’t

hear me and so then they don’t see me

and they’re like literally

trying to cut me off

and that’s frustrating um especially

because that rarely happens with the

bobber because

it’s so loud mm-hmm

know i’m coming people hear me um and so

they kind of like look around because

they’re like where’s that coming from

um whereas the ftr even though i felt

like i was getting more visible because

i’m higher

they don’t they don’t hear me they don’t

hear me coming

yeah they don’t see me so that could be

very dangerous

100 now there’s a lot of debate around

whether you know the whole

loud pipes saves lives things some

people call bs on it

some people swear by it um you know i

didn’t even know it was a debate before

i started riding motorcycles

uh because personally when i was driving

my truck

anytime i would hear a motorcycle i

would start looking around

to see where that motorcycle was

so even though a lot of people say it’s

bs i can only speak from personal

experience as a driver before i rode

motorcycles

and as a driver when i heard a bike i

immediately started looking

for where it was at where is that coming

from where it was

yeah it’s like a siren when you hear

sirens you’re like oh shit where’s it

coming from so i can stop

yeah um and i think that they prevent

accidents i really do

well and there’s a lot of data that

shows um

even when people look they don’t see

motorcycles

you know because of just the way the

brain works uh

because the brain when you learn to

drive especially if you’ve never ridden

a motorcycle is looking for other cars

and so the brain just like fills in gaps

and so it’s like if you turn your head

you’re looking right at a motorcycle but

because your brain is not expecting to

see it

it just fills in like either empty space

or whatever and then you keep moving

um and so people legitimately just don’t

see you even if they look right at you

yeah i don’t know i believe that i think

anything that helps you

stand out i think so there’s this

um game that i i read about and that i

tried to

do with my kids which i think that if we

can get other people to do it with their

kids

um and that’s kind of like where you

kind of almost like play i spy

yeah but instead you look for

motorcycles like let’s see who can find

the most motorcycles and so it teaches

those children to look out

for motorcycles where it’s kind of that

same thing where it’s kind of embedded

in your brain

um and you naturally like are always

looking for motorcycles

um so like i know like my son my oldest

does already like and he’ll like be like

what kind of motorcycle is that and

he’ll wait for it and then he’s like oh

that’s a harley or or that’s a whatever

like he’s

um and so that kind of stuff like i know

growing up when he drives like he’s

always going to notice

motorcycles you know he’s going to be

aware of the road and

the riders so that’s pretty cool no and

actually that’s one of the things i’ve

heard people suggest

for people who don’t ride motorcycles is

to do something like that because

it’s the same principles principle

behind when you are thinking about

buying something

like a certain kind of car a certain

kind of bike all of a sudden you start

seeing it everywhere right

yeah yeah so um

let’s shift a little bit back to the

sponsorship thing

if you could have one dream sponsor

you know bike clothing whatever it

doesn’t matter any

do you have a dream sponsorship in mind

like a brand that i love yeah a brand

that you love that if you just be

sponsored by them

two i think and that would be obviously

indian

a motorcycle and then i have one that’s

not um

indian related but i’m obsessed with

coca-cola

oh nice okay so if i like unlimited like

lifetime supply of coke

that’s hilarious but it goes really well

i guess with the pinup theme too you

know

it does and it’s crazy because it wasn’t

purposely like you know i just that’s

just naturally how

i am i love coke i i do too but i have

to get the uh i

only like the mexican cokes with the

real sugar yes

yeah with the bottle one yeah so

not only the flavor but for some reason

the other ones give me heartburn

that’s interesting it’s yeah it’s and

the glass gets colder easier too

like it’s really yeah i i buy the little

four pack of those and like when i want

to like spoil myself i’ll have like one

of those

i can’t finish it i don’t even drink

that much soda but i still love coke

yeah i um i don’t drink that much soda

either for a while i was you know

for the first probably couple months of

social isolation

social isolation i was kind of going to

hog wild with the sodas

and i was getting like you know six of

those things a week

yeah which for me is a lot um but i’ve

since basically cut it out because it

was like oh

you know i’m fat enough i don’t need to

drink all this soda

but that’s cool coke and indian

that’d be interesting photo shoot you

know like a coca-cola advertisement

on an indian motorcycle you can have

them the red bandanas or something

yeah yeah i would love to do that

so now that kind of leads us to the

other aspect of what i see a lot of

on your instagram account which seems to

be modeling

um how long have you been modeling

you know that’s so crazy hearing that

because i am not like a

model i guess okay i guess i would kind

of i guess

categorize myself as a model now but

like i always joke that like

buying a motorcycle and then like

building an instagram off of it turned

me into a model

because i never intentionally tried to

do that it just kind of was more of like

here’s pictures of my bikes

or my bike and then like you know

modifications and here’s measure with me

on it

and then i wanted to always do like that

pin up look and so i did it

what really kind of triggered it was i

kind of slowly

started getting um dms from

photographers wanting to

take my picture with a bike um i still

remember the first

one and i was like this is so weird um

and so i did it and then right after

that they just started flowing

in like crazy and so

i’ve lost count of how many

photographers i’ve collabed with

um but yeah it’s just kind of and this

was like before i had

like over the 10k mark on instagram i

think i only had maybe like

3 000 followers um

so yeah that’s pretty it’s crazy but

that’s i guess what it is okay

so then i take it um well i guess you

didn’t mention how long ago you bought

the

um so i got it in early 2018.

okay so two years about two years so

you’ve been modeling

approximately two years year and a half

so i would say then like a year and a

half i was like halfway in is when

okay they started asking so now that

you’ve kind of gotten

more involved in the modeling and

photography

scene do you have any kind of dream

shoots in mind

that you really want to do i think you

mentioned about frida kahlo at one point

yeah so i would love to do um

anything like cultural related um

just because it’s i mean to my culture

and i feel like a lot of pride

um but i also feel really confident in

that kind of setting

um maybe because i’m really comfortable

i’m not too sure

um another one that i really really

really want to do once i like get

brave enough is i really would love to

like recreate like a betty page

kind of photo shoot um i’ve

loved that woman since like high school

and

um her photos and just like her style

i would love to do something like that

if i

get brave enough to do it well you know

um first off

a model is anyone who’s willing to get

in front of a camera you know number one

and

i think personally this is kind of

infringing on a question i’ve got later

down in here

but um you know so like i mentioned i

mentioned before that i’m a photographer

but

i don’t um i don’t think i mentioned

that my primary

business was actually boudoir

photography um before this whole thing

oh okay hit so um

you know you run across a lot of people

who have these ideas

like ah you know this type of

photography or this type of modeling or

this type of um

gift for my husband spouse whoever

you know isn’t for me and it’s like well

you know number one everyone should have

the confidence

that they are beautiful

you know what i mean and if you

constantly just compare yourself to

what’s put in magazines

well that’s you know that’s ludicrous

it’s just gonna make people feel bad

yeah i think it’s in a lot of damage to

people’s psyches like putting forward

this idea that like this is what’s

beautiful but

as you see because you’re into pinup

like what is quote unquote beautiful

changes throughout time you know it’s

really subjective and it’s it really is

one of these things if you’re trying to

keep up with what’s what’s beautiful

you’ll never fit in because like

you know growing up in the 80s it was

always like the super skinny

super twig like models right and then

now

it’s like big big booties you know what

i mean like tiny

boobs yeah yeah exactly like the pamela

anderson

type deal right and and so i think that

if

people are trying to like you know

wait until they fit the modern whatever

the modern beauty standard is to do

something

well you may never you know reach that

because

it’s just manufactured by media because

you always have to have something new

and something that people can’t actually

do otherwise

you know what how do they stand out like

if those women look like everyone then

of course they’re not gonna uh yeah they

won’t sell as many magazines like you

can’t sell

someone on how to build bigger how to

build a bigger booty

if everyone’s got a bigger booty you

know what i mean yeah

no it makes sense i get it yeah sorry i

went off on a tangent but uh

anyway i think if you want to do it you

should do it and

uh you know and if you don’t though

because it’s one of those areas

personally where i think people really

need to be careful about pushing

boundaries because

in life pushing boundaries can be a

healthy thing but it can also you know

be an unhealthy thing and

and it’s one of those things you really

got to think through

as far as you know is this a healthy

boundary i’m pushing or is this

a boundary that i’m not really that

comfortable pushing

if that makes sense so no it i get it

anyway i think i will do it i just

get nervous okay yeah

how long do you think you’ll continue

modeling have you thought about it

all or for as long as people still want

to shoot me

because that’s it’s i think the thing i

like

about it the most is having the images

to

pass on to like my children possibly

like

my future grandchildren um especially

like

the females of you know of my daughter

and if

you know my sons or her decide to have

children if they have daughters like

it’s kind of one of those like well

if mom and grandma can ride motorcycles

then it kind of more of like that

empowering feeling um is what i’m trying

to

hand down do you have any other hobbies

besides modeling and motorcycles

and now i know dance so this is probably

a redundant question dancing

running running okay and

makeup i’ve done a lot of like

character makeup like i’ve turned myself

into like

venom and like um

like michael jackson like that kind of

stuff i think i always i think that

would be really cool to do some kind of

like

um special effects kind of makeup

yeah i have like a huge interest in that

so what what uh do your parents think

of you riding a motorcycle

um so my mom i think at first was kind

of like

like nervous um just like any mother

would be

mine was yeah um

but now i think she embraces it i think

that

she’s very

um i mean she was a single mom and so

she’s kind of like

had that like strength in her that i

think that

she kind of um directed towards me and

my sister

um neither of us are completely girly

girly

um i guess you can say like my sister

joined the um

the army into the national guard like

right out of high school which isn’t

like typical

of like a woman and then then there’s me

who’s

um always done the harder like

boxing riding motorcycles male dominant

type of stuff

so um i kind of almost like

i mean it’s kind of like her fault that

i do it

so that’s cool how long uh how long have

you boxed

so i boxed for like four years and then

i stopped just because of like

scheduling wise but i miss it so much

yeah so that that’s what happened with

me too once i got um

got you know a promotion and some

additional responsibilities and stuff it

just

became impossible to make the classes

because i did mma for a while so i did

muay thai and jiu-jitsu and judo and

yeah kind of stuff but it was like you

know

the times all the classes have a set

schedule and

i never knew when i was going to leave

the office and then i was paying all

this money for something i could only go

to like once a month so

yeah i’m dropping it but i’m right there

with you i miss it a lot

um did you ever do any competitions did

you ever boxing no

not like any kind of actual i just like

sparring

but not um not any fights i think there

was a point where

i was ready but then it was kind of hard

to find someone in like my weight class

and my um experience level and so that

was only for like i think it was like a

fight that was coming up he was going to

look for someone and then

after that it just kind of was like it

was just kind of more of like a

like a workout stress reliever type

thing so

oh yeah i mean you still at least always

say you know there’s no workout like a

fight workout

you know no there’s not you use so much

energy to be surprised you like train

you think you’re cool and then you

spar and then you’re just like what the

hell that was like so

drainy like someone who i run endurance

and i would be like tired from like

three rounds

so yeah there’s uh i wish i could

remember who

who said this and who the origin the

quote is but they’re like everyone’s got

a plan until they get punched in the

face

so i i definitely understand that so

would you consider yourself a feminist

yes no if yes why if not why not

um i guess so i would say yeah

um and i guess just because

um i think that i don’t know i go back

and forth on this because it depends on

like how you define feminism

but for me i think that we as women

should have equal opportunities

um but at the same time i am very aware

of how

different men and women are um in the

way that we are

just built um physically and

um i think that’s the only thing where

it comes to play

where like

yeah i just can’t explain it whereas

like okay i guess the best way to

explain is i have twins

and they’re i have a son and a daughter

and i know

for a fact that when my son is out late

i won’t be as worried

as i would be for my daughter who’s out

late so um

there’s that like without even really

fully being aware of how

biased that people are and

so like i know i will be like i can’t i

can tell you yes i think that women need

equal rights and

opportunities and there shouldn’t be

different rules put on them at the same

time

like i know that i fully don’t

you know act on that

what uh do you have a favorite book and

what is it if you do

um my favorite book is definitely the

hobbit

oh nice yeah i’m a huge lord of the

rings

geek um nope stop so

yeah that book is definitely i my

teacher i think was fourth grade teacher

read it to us

and um so like ever since then it was

just it was one of those things where i

was excited to go to class because i’m

like

her name was this bishop she’s good

she’s going to finish this chapter today

like i want to know what’s going to

happen

and so it was kind of one of those like

first books that drew my attention or

like

kept my attention even like i don’t

think i really enjoyed reading that much

before that

so um so yeah it’s definitely it’s the

hobbit

okay so um did you go on to read the

rest of the the books that i take it

yeah did you have a favorite outside of

the hobbit or

um i really like the hobbit

and yeah i love the hobbit

i think sometimes there’s some nostalgia

to the first book that you really enjoy

um too it holds a special place in your

heart i think

i think you’re right and i think maybe

that’s possibly it isn’t necessarily

because i

enjoyed the book more but more of like

it was like that first book that

i fell in love with so yeah no

so um for me when i was like i don’t

know

10 11 12 somewhere in that anger age

range right my

uh my aunt gave me a book to read um

called watchers by dean coons

and um it was the first real novel i

ever read

and just really really enjoyed and i i

think i’ve probably read books now that

are better

um since then but i still consider it my

favorite book just because it was the

first one that i

really loved the first time i got

absorbed in a book

you know yeah nope totally get it it

makes sense

um so do you have any books that you’re

reading right now or

i don’t have any books that i’m reading

right now you know what’s funny i have a

book that my sister gifted me

um and she i want to say it was like

months ago and i haven’t picked it up

yet but it’s right there by my bed

and it’s funny because it’s actually um

based it’s not a lord of the rings book

but this person um translated the book

um and jrr token who’s the

author was a um very devoted catholic

and so like the meaning behind the lord

of the rings

um is basically what this book is based

i’m catholic my family’s catholic and so

she gifted me that book and i’ve been

dying to read it

like so badly um and i just haven’t been

able to pick it up

i should do that tonight i keep telling

myself like all the time i’m like i’m

gonna pick it up i wanna start it and i

just haven’t

i go through phases i feel like where

you know i get really into books and so

i’ll read like a bunch in a row and then

i get distracted by something else i’m

doing and realize oh

it’s been a while since i’ve read a book

and then i’ll go back and i’ll read some

more

i think um i think the last one

i can’t remember the last one i read oh

you know what i’m actually still

reading it is um it’s called sweat the

technique by rakim

okay now i don’t i mean i’m not like big

on books

no no this actually rakim’s a rapper

right

so he uh he wrote a book called sweat

the technique

and um i uh that title makes more sense

yeah so i really i like his music

um you know i wouldn’t say that i’m like

a super fan or anything but i really

like his music

and he happened to be doing a book uh

signing

not too long before the whole shutdown

stuff happened

and so i went ahead and bought the book

and got it signed

and i’ve been kind of like reading it

here and there um

ever since it’s not that long of a book

but um

you know it’s actually what i was doing

was i used to smoke a lot of cigars

and so i would go on my back patio and

smoke a cigar and read some of the book

but i haven’t been smoking

for a long time um and so i just haven’t

uh it’s probably still sitting on my

back patio like right next to the table

honestly have you ever traveled do you

enjoy traveling

yeah i enjoy traveling okay so i know

that’s even kind of

well not everyone does i mean i know

people who hate

traveling yeah um and think

i’m a travel i love to travel i mean if

you can’t tell by the fact that i just

talking about being in nicaragua back in

november

um i like to travel but i’ve definitely

met people who are just like i hate

planes

um i hate going like staying in hotels i

like my own bed

you know what i mean like not everyone

likes it i feel like i may be like in

the middle then because i

like being home um

and i don’t i don’t adapt to change very

easily

so um yeah and then like i don’t

necessarily feel like the need to

travel i guess i don’t know like there’s

one place i really would love to go to

and that’s new zealand

um but other than that you know exactly

surprise surprise

um and other than that i don’t really

i don’t really have a like need or want

to

travel so okay yeah

i mean i understand the new zealand

thing that uh number one

of course you’ve got the lord of the

rings set is out there right i think

they’ve got the hobby goals and all that

kind of stuff

but it’s also a beautiful beautiful

wonderful country

so i totally i totally get that i was in

iceland

and it’s also a beautiful country kind

of reminded me of

some of the scenes from lord of the

rings when they’re in the icy mountains

you know yeah iceland does kind of

look like a middle earth well only some

parts of it i think new zealand

obviously since they filmed it there

uh has more yet

it definitely looks more like it uh but

yeah

when we were going through some of the

um some of the areas there it kind of

made me think back to some of the lord

of the rings movies

when they’re like in those little

mountain passes and it’s all snowy

yeah yeah if your kids decide to ride

motorcycles

would you be supportive or would you be

the mom who was like ah that’s not that

safe

um that’s funny because like i really

don’t want to put the kids

on like a passenger like with me i don’t

even feel comfortable with doing that

so i don’t know but i know like my son

is going to want to ride

my daughter can care less about bikes

but if she grew up and changed her mind

then i think i would be

supportive i think i would just do my

best to

make sure that they’re mature enough

number one um and then number two is

just kind of give them

as much knowledge and um

writing tips and that i can do but i’m

not going to stop them from doing it

because i think that’s kind of where my

parents felt like my mom was just like

you know you’re never going to run a

motorcycle as long as you’re in my house

and it was funny because i never had an

interest in it um so her saying that

really didn’t mean anything to me

because i was like yeah whatever i don’t

i don’t care

you know yeah until i got on one and

then i was hooked and

ever since then i’ve been thinking about

motorcycles and yeah

you know now i just love it i mean it’s

one of the few things i can do now where

i want to worry about interacting with a

bunch of people you know i can just hop

on my bike and

go for a ride i mean i even really enjoy

my parking lot practice stuff you know

like getting out and just like

trying to do stuff that’s hard on the

bike and practicing over and over and

then like watching myself get better

um i can’t i love cats

she’s clinky she’s like wants my

attention she’s like what are you doing

dude

well she’s she’s cute i’m surprised

you’re able to tell her no

i know sorry

um all right so let’s do a couple more

and then i’ll let you

let you get out of here and interact

with the kids um

let’s let’s go with uh let’s go with one

of these happy things

what would you consider to be your

happiest

childhood memory i think just kind of

like playing with my

friends and my cousin um

like playing like tag because

again i mentioned earlier there’s a huge

gap between me and my siblings so i

almost kind of felt like an only child

and so my cousin was only three years

older than me

and then my neighbors um

there was my best friend who i’m still

best friends with today so i’ve known

her since i was like five

um she was a year older than me and she

had a brother that was my age and so

there was like a group of friends

and this was before electronics or any

of that

so we would just play play tag play

freeze tag

play football play all kinds of stuff i

was a huge tomboy when i was younger

so sports and that kind of stuff that

would have to be

definitely my happiest childhood

memories it’s just plain

i just feel so fortunate that i lived

and grew up in the 90s

so

right like there’s a lot of like there

wasn’t like social media there wasn’t

you know playstations i mean

i guess there were but you know there

was yeah it was just better

so what do you consider your happiest

adult memory

i guess probably like my wedding day

just because like my children were

present

it was one of those where you know my

kids were kind of like in the wedding

yeah so that was cool that was something

like

my kite my kids kind of remember it you

know um they’re really young

but it would have to be that so did you

guys go

big with your wedding or did you go

something a little bit smaller

it was it was like medium i actually

didn’t want a big wedding i just wanted

to like get married but my

family and like our family wanted a

wedding so we had like

like 150 guests i think so i don’t know

if you consider that big is that big

i i think i had 12 in mine okay then so

then we have like a bigger wedding

wow i mean i wondered because you know

it’s one of those things where

um even though it’s your wedding there

are a remarkable number of people

involved who want to have some sort of

input

on it you know oh yeah and then two

i think part of our culture too because

we’re mexican is like

family is just big and so it was kind of

like if you invite one cousin

you have to buy all your cousins yeah um

so

yeah it was just kind of i think like

people would be offended if they didn’t

get invitation that’s just kind of how

it is

family drama yeah so everyone so

everyone comes

it’s a big party is your husband mexican

to them

yes yeah and his parents are like his

mom is one of

um i believe eight or nine kids yeah

yeah i mean

so you know my girlfriend’s mexican and

i went to

um one of her friend’s weddings as well

and i was just like again because i

only had like you know when i got

married i only had like 12 people in my

wedding and i never really considered

having more

and so and i’ve always really disliked

weddings i mean i went to one when i was

a kid and i’ve just not been a wedding

person right

and so i’ve been avoiding them for all

this time

and to suddenly go and uh

be submersed into this wedding where

there was just like

so many people around i didn’t know how

people kept track

you know um anyway for me

it was it was just uh overwhelming and

i think that it would have been a lot of

logistics you know to make sure

everyone’s fed and make sure everyone’s

happy

yeah and like you know but then you know

you’re talking to people and you do find

out it’s one of those things where it’s

like well okay

if you don’t invite this person then

they’re gonna be mad but if you

if you do invite this other person but

you don’t invite their whatever

then it’s gonna seem like a slight too

and it’s like

are all these people paying for this

wedding because that’s a lot of people

yeah it can get expensive

did you guys try to fund it yourselves

or did you guys get some help from

family or

we got help yeah we i mean we paid for

what we

could and then we got help so that’s

nice

like i said they really they wanted it

more than we both

did we just kind of like were like we

just want to get married we don’t want

to

put the money into that basically we

wanted to put the money into something

else so

um our family were more more than

willing to help since they were the ones

that were like well we want this wedding

so

no that that’s perfect i yeah i

completely sympathize i

you know again i do accounting as my my

day job and so like

you start thinking about all the money

you’re spending on flowers photographers

um clothes food the venue

you know i mean even the priest or

whoever decides to marry you wants some

money

it’s expensive it’s really expensive you

know all right well

i thank you for coming on this podcast

with me um i really do appreciate it

and uh i love your content on instagram

i’m excited to see what else keeps

coming out of your youtube because i

i see you’ve got that youtube channel um

started and

yeah you said you might have an exhaust

coming as early as next week

hopefully fingers crossed

all right i’m gonna say goodbye before i

keep talking

have a good one all right bye bye

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