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hey everybody welcome to the modern
squid where we get to know the people
behind our favorite riders and
companies
today’s guest is estrella alvarez better
known as star bobber on instagram and
youtube
so let’s get started and find out where
she falls on the scale of
full squid to full ATGATT one of the
things i plan on asking people because i
call it the modern squid i’m going to
ask people where they fall on that scale
of like you know full squid to full ATGATT
so where do you fall on that scale would
you say
um i think it depends on the weather
um i’m guilty of like riding in like a tank
top and jeans
when it’s hot um i live
in fresno and so like for example it was
like 107 this past weekend
um so if i do ride i’m gonna be in a
tank top and jeans
but for the most part i try to at least
wear a jacket so
i would say i’m like if squid is what a
ten?
A squid, is it’s just like full squid to
full ATGATT you know so you can make up
however you would say
in between there.
yeah i’m like in the middle
in the middle okay.
yeah because even like jackets i wear
aren’t like they don’t have any armor or
anything so
No armor?
i have like two that do but i
rarely wear them.
Let me ask you this then;
have you ever broken a bone?
no.
okay see this i think this is why you’re
um
more towards the squid level i’ve broken
my ankle before
and that sucks.
yeah
not riding a bike um just in general i’d
never
i’ve gone over 30 years never breaking a
bone and then i was
um visiting my sister for her wedding
and my brother-in-law wanted to go rock
climbing so we went out to
a rock climbing gym um and i just
happened to jump off the wall funny and
snap my ankle
right before the wedding so i had to
wear sweatpants to my sister’s wedding
oh my god.
because they put me in a cast
and i didn’t have anything that fit over
it
that’s crazy.
You know, i know you
mentioned that you live in fresno but
did you grow up in fresno or?
i did yeah so i um was born in san diego
and we moved here when i was little so i
don’t really remember san diego very
much
so um yeah basically i like to say
raised here it’s kind of weird when i
tell people i was born somewhere else
but i feel like i was born here
yeah well that makes sense i come from
military families so we moved every
few years or so so for me it’s kind of
like where i’m from is wherever i spent
the most time last
you know?
oh yeah um
so you know we’ve heard of you i’ve seen
you talk about
you know your husband and your kids but
i don’t think i’ve ever heard you
mention any siblings do you have any
siblings as well or
um yeah i do i have two brothers and a
sister
okay do you along with them are you guys
more of the the fighting siblings um
no we get along we get along um i’m the
baby
there’s like a huge gap between me and
the second youngest there’s a nine-year
age gap
um so they’re i think closer like the
three of them
than me um and so and then i’m kind of
like
the rebel of the family so but we get
along okay
um that’s that reminds me so my ex-wife
is also
the youngest in her family and there’s a
giant age gap as well like her mom
didn’t even know she could still have
kids
um when my ex-wife was born so
you know i definitely understand where
you’re coming from with that
yeah she has the same kind of thing like
she knows her siblings and someone gets
along with them but it was too much of a
gap to really be
as close as some other siblings.
yeah like we didn’t like
grow up together you know like they were
in high school when i was in like
elementary school so…
yeah not as much to
talk about when you…
yeah.
do you guys talk more now do you
feel like than you did when you were
growing up
yeah i would say so my brother moved so
he’s
not in the state in california but um
my sister is and so we talk
we talk pretty often all right and we
have we both have kids that are
similar in age so her youngest is um
just one year older than my
oldest two so that kind of
brought us a lot closer.
so she waited for a while to have kids huh
there’s an age gap between her so she
has the older two and then she kind of
waited and then they had another one.
oh okay.
yeah.
So did your brother move
somewhere cool so that you can uh
visit somewhere interesting or? uh no and
actually i haven’t visited him yet um
but he moved to kentucky.
oh no. so
yeah it’s kind of random but yeah that’s
where he’s at right now
i’m just kidding for anyone who lives in
kentucky
so where did you end up going to high
school? um i went to high school
here in fresno it’s called roosevelt
high school
um and it’s actually a school of the
arts school i danced
and so that was the main reason why i
went there it wasn’t even my district
um and so yeah that’s why i went there.
oh you stole my questions i was gonna
ask you what crowd you hung out in, but
obviously you were hanging out in the
arts crowd.
yeah i kind of yeah it was like the arts
like
um i don’t know i can’t explain it yeah
i guess it was artsy’s it’s
kind of crazy when you go to a school of
the arts school because there’s like
a lot of different crowds because it’s
like the arts but there’s like
the dancers, musicians, the actors, the
musical people you know so there’s still
like
way more crowds than probably a typical
high school would have.
okay,
so did you did you gravitate towards one
or do you feel like you were one of
those people that kind of
cross-pollinated between all the
different groups or? i would say i
crossed
and then like i’m one of those people
where i have like
two really really close friends versus
like somebody who has a bunch of like
friends you know so um that’s kind of
how
i was i kind of had like my two or three
main like
people that i hung out with um in fact
one of them is still a really best
friend now
so oh nice. so, what kind of dance did you
specialize in or was it not really a
specialty at that
point? yeah no, i did um folklorico which is like
mexican
um dancing in a sense uh-huh it is it’s
mexican
it’s always hard for me to explain what
it is um when you don’t know it
but it’s kind of like if you’re not if
you’re not familiar with it
if there’s like a mariachi band playing
um envision the girls dancing and that’s
kind of what
that’s what it is.
now would it be the
type of dancing you were doing in that
dress recently on your instagram post?
yes yes.
all right so for everyone
listening if you want to see what she’s
talking about go to her instagram
yeah you’ll see both photos and video
for uh doing that it was really cool my
girlfriend saw that and she was jealous
she loved your dress
she’s always wanted one but she hasn’t
hasn’t gone and gotten one so
okay so um did you
get involved in any other activities in
school besides dancing or
were you pretty focused on on dance? um
no just dancing i was one of those
people who hated high school
so i just you know if it wasn’t for
dancing i’m not too sure if i would have
even
gone been able to get through it. so,
whose decision was it to go to the um
the dance
high school or the arts high school?
um
it was mine
because i danced on ever since i was
little
so it’s one of those things where like i
always done it and the school
specialized in it um and my one of my
older brothers
had went there as well so
um i kind of followed in his footsteps
he wasn’t a dancer he did more like arts
like the
acting and every in the uh stage
building so
i kind of was familiar with the school
because of him
okay well that’s cool. nice is you think
that that’s um
one of the benefits of living in
california that you have access to those
types of schools or do you?
oh yeah oh yeah absolutely i definitely
we have schools like that we have a
middle school like that we have like a
school like elementary i think it’s like
kindred through eighth that’s a
art school so yeah.
do you think you’re
gonna put any of your kids in
um in art school or are you gonna wait
and see what their interests are in?
it depends what they’re interested in. my
one of mine plays piano so if he like
sticks to it and wants to do that
um he has like a real like appreciation
for music
so there might be a chance that he will
go there
um maybe my daughter i don’t know she’s
kind of she changes her personality
all the time i mean she’s young right
they’re both
nine so they’re twins wow that’s got to
be yeah
yeah yeah my oldest two yeah
all right ah your husband when did you
meet your husband
um i met my husband on
i met him new year’s eve it was
uh like 2009 turning into 2010.
um and so yeah i met him at a new year’s
eve party.
okay so then um
was he obviously okay so 2009
it’s already 2020. i’m going to assume
was that high school?
no i was 19 so i think i had just been
maybe a year
and a half out of high school or
something something like that okay so he
wasn’t someone from your
your high school that you knew?
no it was
a co-worker’s cousin
it was a co-workers like a friend that i
worked with
and another co-worker was having a new
year’s eve party and
she invited him to the party so he was
there. oh wow.
okay yeah cool does your husband dance?
no. okay.
do you think uh is he not interested
in dancing
or do you just have high expectations
and so you don’t want him to dance?
i mean definitely not like the dancing
that i do
but like he’ll dance like at a wedding
or
a you know event then yeah, he’ll like go dance
but
yeah not like what i do he’s not no he
played soccer all his life so he’s like
kind of more like athletic type.
okay so yeah wow i i wasn’t really an
athlete in high school but
i am i guess would be considered one now
just because i am a long distance runner
you are? so i ran like half in full
marathons
so i uh funny story;
this is the reason i hate running, by the
way so,
um i did different types of martial
arts and stuff when i was a kid
and my dad told me um you know you got
to do
one high school sport before you get out
of high school just so you’ve got
something to put on college applications
and that sort of a thing.
but, because i hadn’t been playing any
sports um
during my my school career i didn’t have
any the the basic skills for things like
baseball, basketball,
you know football, that sort of thing and
um we moved into a school
where it was in the midwest and everyone
had been playing the same sport under
the same coaches since like middle
school
right yeah and so um when i was looking
to figure out what exactly i was going
to do
i was talking to my neighbor and he was
like oh cross country doesn’t have any
tryouts
and i said well, what’s cross country and
he said oh you just run it’s not that
big of a deal he’s like it’s super easy
I’ve been doing it forever
and uh you know and i didn’t have a
lot of money and so
i was like well what do you have to buy
to to do cross country?
he’s like, all you need is a pair of
shorts a t-shirt and shoes;
and i was like oh my god this is my kind
of sport! so,
i showed up the first day i was like no
tryouts and it’s dirt cheap, perfect!
i showed up the first day and the coach
is talking to everyone
and you know shooting the breeze with
them. everyone knows everyone,
you know, they’ve been running together
for years and
uh so he goes alright guys so run over
to the
field blah blah blah the same route as
usual and we’ll we’ll meet and stretch
out
and uh i was like i don’t know how to
get there you know i’ve never done this
before
and they’re like oh just follow us it’s
no problem. two miles later, so keep in
mind i’ve never run a mile in my life,
two miles later we get to this spot and
everyone’s stretching out
and i’m dying! i’m already done, you know?
i’ve never run a mile before, and i just
had to do a two-mile “warm-up”.
i’m done. i’m cooke.d um so the coach is
all mad
and he’s like hurry up and stretch and
then meet us over at the uh the track
so i hurry up i stretch real quick i run
over the track
and he’s explaining what the next
exercise is going to be, he’s talking
about “mile repeats”
and you know i’m like hey coach what’s a
“mile repeat”?
and he looks at me like i’ve got a third
eyeball and he goes “you run a mile
and then you repeat it” and i was like
what?
“you run a mile and then you repeat it”. i
was like “well how many times?”
He’s like “as many as you can” so
we were just running and running and
running and he was telling me the goal
was that each mile that you ran was
supposed to be faster than the last one
and it was just anyway that went on for
an entire season
by the end of the season i never wanted
to look at another pair of running shoes
again
i was always the slowest in all the
races because i’ve never done it before
um but you know it was a learning
experience yeah
all right so when you guys met who asked
who out first? did he ask you out? do you
ask him out or was
it more kind of like the modern thing
where you guys just started kind of
hanging out and then?
yeah um we started hanging out like as
friends for
like maybe like a month. okay yeah so
it’s new year’s eve
um so we were like yes i met him we were
kind of hung out here and there
and he asked me out for valentine’s day.
oh okay now did you find that sweet or
did you find it cheesy
or? no it was sweet i just i think at
first
i didn’t know like i just he was like a
friend
so um but
i think it was like a week after the
whole valentine’s date
we were like officially like boyfriend
and girlfriend so. cool.
okay yeah so how long did you guys date
before you ended up pulling the trigger
and getting married?
so we actually got pregnant before we
got married
so um um so we got pregnant with my
with the twins and then um when the
twins were
i think eight months we got pregnant
with our last son
and so we didn’t get married until 2014.
okay so yeah like five six years or so
since yeah i think it’s gonna be six
years this year.
all right so you guys definitely knew
each other it wasn’t one of those things
where it was like a week later you’re
getting married and your family’s going
what are you doing?
yeah yeah yeah okay that’s cool
were you a “kid person” before you started
having kids?
no. okay, did you imagine yourself having
kids or were you kind of on the fence?
not really i mean not that i didn’t
imagine myself having kids i think i
i think i knew maybe eventually one day
i would have children i just didn’t
um expect it to happen so soon.
um because i’m a young mom i was i had
two kids by my 21st birthday
um so i think that’s what it is i before
them though like the only kids i were i
was ever around were my nephews and i
loved my nephews but like any other
children i
you know i wasn’t one of those girls who
was like oh how cute your baby’s so cute
like i could care less if that was your
baby like i don’t
know but i wasn’t, so it’s crazy. well
that’s neat. i mean
yeah i uh you know i’m not really that
big of a “kid person”
but um my sister just had a baby not too
long ago
and i love being an uncle because my
niece is adorable
yeah she’s fun to hang out with and then
when she starts throwing a tantrum i’m
just like
okay mom you need to uh come get paisley.
yeah yeah i think feel like it’s kind of
the best of both worlds for me
personally because
i get all the benefits of having an
adorable child but
none of the responsibilities. yep
but i do admire people who like to have
kids because obviously you know the
world needs people i suppose.
exactly. all right let’s move on to some
motorcycle
questions so i think i saw in one of
your videos that you said that you
started thinking about riding a
motorcycle
based on parking. yes. is that truly true
or
do you think you had any like…? i mean i
never really thought of it before
um like when i met my husband
he rode and um
like i never really thought anything of
it and it didn’t really cross my mind for
me to ever ride
um but yeah the main reason was because
i was going to community college and the
parking is horrible there
um and i was always you know driving
around trying to find parking and these
bikes were just like zoom right in and
just park and like
go to class and it would drive me crazy
so i was like i want to
that’s like one of the big pushers for
me was like i just
when i first envisioned me right i was
like i’m only going to ride to school
like that’s all it’s really going to be
for
and whatever um i didn’t think i would
like fall in love with it so much.
so let me ask you this, so if if your
idea was to ride to school
what made you go with um a brand new
indian?
so okay i’ve always wanted
and not always but i always liked
indians like,
this is crazy, so when i was pregnant
with my first two
twins i was put on bed rest and so all i
did was watch
tv and i was obsessed with the show
american pickers i don’t know if you’ve
ever watched it? i’ve seen it i have yeah.
yeah
okay it’s funny i was literally watching
it before i came on here with you
it’s on right now it’s like marathon all
day um
but i loved that show and and that’s
where i learned about the brand
indian was through um through mike which
is one of the guys on the show
and he loved the brand he would always
just praise it and i would learn a
little history about it like you know
with every episode so in my mind that
always kind of stuck
out like indian motorcycle kind of
always stuck out and i
kind of associate it with like old and
vintage and i love that kind of stuff
like i eat that shit up
so that’s kind of where it started was
like i wanted like an indian
you know yeah same thing with a bobber
like the whole like
bobber thing kind of same thing 1940s
and i love the 40s and
stripping everything down because they
needed it for something you know all of
that
um so when the bobber my husband sent me
a picture of the bobber
um i believe it was before was even
released and um
it was before it was released actually
and i was like oh my god
that bike is like beautiful there’s not
many, like i said before he wrote he rode
a sports bike and it didn’t like catch
my eye, i never liked
bikes didn’t turn my head um but that
one did
and so it was just, you know when you
know.
so i mean i’m a fan of basically all
motorcycles but i will say
to me most sport bikes kind of look like
bugs um to varying degrees
so aesthetically i’m not that
interested in sport bikes and i’m not a
speed demon you know so the performance..
I’m the same..
but what does get me is i do like the
stunt riding people do on them.
um oh i see. you know like i like seeing
people popping wheelies and doing
burnouts
that kind of stuff interests me but i’m
too new of a rider to really even think
about that sort of a thing right now
um the indians were beautiful i was
i mean i just bought my first bike
in april and um it was down to
an indian scout um or the
iron 883 from harley and i ended up
going with the harley
mostly because i’ve always liked
harley’s
um and kind of thought, i mean i never
really thought about riding a motorcycle
until i went to nicaragua and uh got on
one my friend was showing me how to ride
um
i always thought it was too dangerous
for the amount of fun that you’d have
with it
yeah. but then you sit on the bike and
you’re like this is way more fun
than i thought it was going to be god
damn it i’m hooked!
but anyway kind of get back though to
your indian uh
adventure, i’m just, you know, personally i
do accounting as my day job
and so when i’m thinking, you know, i want
to get like access to
close parking i want it to be cheap i
don’t think let’s go with a brand new
you know moderately priced bike you know
so what yeah you ever consider is going
with something like used and reliable
like a honda
rebel or something or did you always go
i want something beautiful?
i didn’t even know what a honda rebel
was until i took my chp course.
so but no i think so when i think
used i think like old like i would get
like a super like vintage looking one
and i think
my husband was kind of like it needs to
be reliable it needs to be
um you know and it helps that my husband
was like willing to like
spend the money on it you know um so i
was kind of like
why not yeah i definitely didn’t really
ever
look at used ones and if
used ones ever came up it was more of
like because my husband’s looking at
different bikes you know
maybe he wants a different bike or
whatever it might be. yeah yeah.
okay well that’s cool. i mean i kind of
went down the same route i originally
was
considering getting sort of an older
used bike because i figured i’d beat it
up
i’ve never ridden a bike before you know
i just passed my msf course
and i was like if i get something nice
i’m just gonna ding it up
you know maybe i’ll go with something
cheap and then i started looking at the
the prices of the cheap things versus
just getting
something new and negotiating the price
hard and
um i just know my luck with used cars
and i was like if my luck with used
bikes is anything like used cars
i should just go with something new so
yeah i switched my mind and just went
with something new because i don’t know
anything mechanically like i can’t
do anything besides change oil in a car
you know? yeah.
yeah no i i get it i kind of same. yeah.
so i’m with your husband,
i went the reliable route too you know
yeah. just have it be reliable and
hopefully there’s no issues, major
issues.
um how long did it take you to make your
decision on what bike to get?
um not long but really because i think
ever since
that text message from him with the
picture of the bike
it was like there was just no other bike
that was gonna cover yeah the only other
one that i considered was the
triumph um bobber and
i think i even saw that one at my
dealership um
but there’s something about and i like
triumphs like if i were to get another
bike because i have two indians if i
were to get a third
bike possibly i don’t know because i
think i feel like i would get a bagger
and i probably wouldn’t go
triumph because i’m getting a bagger so if i were
to get like a fourth bike
i would get a triumph i wouldn’t mind
having to triumph in my garage basically
i like triumphs i just like i said i
just
after even now like something like i see
other bikes
i just there’s not a bike that can beat
the bobber.
but um you mentioned bagger, that’s quite
a difference from a bobber though that’s
basically the opposite of a bobber. it
really is. i think it’s just because
um because my bobber is so bobbed out
like it’s really uncomfortable um like
i ride it around town like i rode it to
school
um you know whatever here and there i i
really can’t go very long on it without
like
just wanting to it’s just really
uncomfortable
um but there’s situations that come up
where like i want to travel
but i want to ride and even with the ftr
the ftr is really not that comfortable
either.
um it’s still more comfortable than the
bobber but it’s still not
i i want like a big cruiser i think.
i mean not like tomorrow you know maybe
when my kids get older and i can travel.
yeah yeah, no, i’m only curious because
again usually like if you’re drawn to
the bobber style
the the baggers aren’t as appealing you
know? yeah.
um so they’re not but i would probably
make it look nice.
oh i’ve seen some beautiful looking
beautiful looking baggers i’m not a
bagger fan myself either i’m more of a
stripped down like i love
like the more stripped down it is the
more i like it the less fairings it has
the better it looks to me you know what
i mean yeah um
oh yeah i i went to um a bike week
cave creek bike week out here in arizona
uh before i rode i was just helping out
with the charity we were we were doing
some fundraising
um at the event and i saw this guy
ride by with this bike and it was the first
time i’d seen a bobber. i was like oh
god what is that thing? what is that? you know
what it means i went up and talked to
him about it he’s like oh this is a
bobber and he was like showing me all
the stuff that he like pulled off
it to make it look like that and i was
just like
if i ever get a bike i want something
like that you know
anyway so the bagger thing like i get i
keep hearing everyone talk about how
comfortable they are
yeah but aesthetically i feel like
there’s really two different types of
people you either like sort of a bobber
style
or you like that bagger style and you
got the people in the middle but then
they usually buy kind of a standard like
a soft tail or
you know what I means something like
that and then you can move up like a road
king
yeah yeah. so okay
that’s cool um let’s see… you did mention
that your husband
rides what is he currently riding? so
he doesn’t really okay so he rides but
he doesn’t
ride like i don’t know if that makes
sense i think it’s just kind of more of
like
the timing like in our lives right now i
guess
so he works full-time and because i’m a
stay-at-home mom and full-time student
um you he’s kind of constantly working
and so
his job too requires him to drive a big
truck so it’s not like he can ride the
bike
um to work or anything like that so he
doesn’t
like he rides maybe like once a week if
he if he
if that. and so and he’ll just ride
either of the indians to be honest so
it’s just kind of like…
oh so he doesn’t have his own specific
bike right now?
i mean i wouldn’t uh
kinda. i mean what’s mine is his
but like it’s it’s cool though because
like we’re
similar but at the same time i mean when
it comes to the bikes like we kind of
have similar taste
um but then again like i’m speaking in
terms of like modifications on the bikes
usually we have similar but there’s also
times where like i’m like no like i’m
sorry i’m not listening to you and i
want to do this to the bike
so um but then it grows on him
so there’s no like major issues yeah
he’s just kind of like
just chill he’s like the most chill
person.
so what happened to his um crotch rocket
then?
Um he sold it. okay. Yeah that was a long time ago. okay did he sell it to
buy one of the bikes or was that?
i’m sorry? did he sell it to buy one of
the current bikes or was that,
i guess you just said it was a long time
ago. he sold it just because
um life you know i was pregnant
and we needed to get a house i i didn’t
have a reliable car
like that kind of stuff yeah and he had
like a truck too
like a lowered like fixed up truck when i
met him
like you know bagged and everything and
he sold that too
well you know twins can be unexpected
and expensive so
yeah so why the ftr as your second bike?
what what drew you to that
bike? so i think the main thing that drew
me to that bike was that it was
different from the bobber
and that i would learn how to
ride different style bikes like i feel
like
and not that like my bike is small or
anything i felt like my bike is kind of
easy to learn to ride on and i didn’t
feel
confident enough if i were to go and
like test ride another bike
or um like especially a higher bike
because the ftr is definitely a lot
higher
um and also i just wanted to i just want
to be an all-around good
rider i want to be able to jump on any
bike and ride it and be confident
and the ftr is intimidating as fuck
so um and not only that it’s just a nice
it’s a nice bike i’m not
attracted to those type of bikes to be
honest like any kind of like sport
looking
dirt bike i’m just not um but that one’s
different
and right okay let me correct myself
so stock it’s like uh um i saw a picture
of a um
jimmy burnout i’m not sure if you know
who he is but he has that bike
and he has like certain modifications to
it like an exhaust and everything
that’s the bike that i saw that i was
like oh my god i want that bike
and not the ftr that is stock from the
dealership
which right now my ftr is still stock
so it drives me crazy like looks wise
it’s not
i wasn’t like drawn completely because
of looks to it
um but i have a really clear vision of
what i want to do to it
to make it look more like me. yeah i was
going to say, i mean if if um
you compare it to the bobber, i mean
aesthetically it’s i would say not as
pretty,
you know what i mean? it’s definitely
kind of utilitarian you know? like it looks
like it’s got a purpose more
more than like the the bobbers which
look like they look cool sound cool
you know it’s like. i get more, because i
obviously ride both of them, i get
more like head turns on the bobber than
i do on the ftr
um like and just be parking it people
will come up to me and talk to me about
the bobber
whereas the ftr people just like kind
of look at it like whatever it’s just
another bike
like the bobber has this ability to draw
people’s attention and the the person
doesn’t even necessarily have to be into
motorcycles they just look at it and be like
that’s a nice bike
um and then it’s kind of like that
cherry on top when
especially when it’s like older people
i’ve noticed when they find out it’s an
indian they’re just kind of like oh my
god like that’s an indian
and like what year is it they start
talking to me about the bike um
sometimes i feel like when i tell people
the ftr’s an indian they don’t believe me
like that’s not an indian because it’s so
different looking like indian has never
made anything like it. so i’m like yeah
no it’s in indian.
i promise. well you know it’s interesting
because um,
i was seeing a lot of really good
reviews, like people who ride it seem to
really like it,
yeah. um but for me, it was it was a
little bit out of left field because you
look at
what indian’s been making and they
seem to focus really heavily on making
beautiful bikes because they are
you know indian makes these beautiful
bikes and then the ftr
came out and i was looking at it i was
like, did they use a different design
team because
they they have such great taste in like
99 percent
of their bikes and then, i’m not saying
the ftr’s ugly, the ftr is definitely not
ugly
it’s just that when you set the bar as
high as they have with their styling
and then you come out with something
that looks good then you go,
you know, hey? like but then you start to
hear again
so you you see the people riding it and
how much fun they’re having and then you
kind of
you know they they put the time into the
performance aspect it sounds like.
mm-hmm. to make it. absolutely. yeah yeah
and then
that’s when it kind of clicked to me i
was like okay so they’re trying to shift
focus get a whole new
market of people who are more interested
in performance
um and still and it has some of that
indian
style it just didn’t go like full indian
style in my mind.
yeah i i absolutely agree. yeah
but you can still make it look good i
have i promise like
months from now it’s going to look a lot
nicer.
like I have seen a few of them online
that definitely look like people put
some work into them and they look better
but
i do agree with you stock there a little
bit… it’s almost
they’re not plane you know. it’s the
exhaust.
is that what you think? i think it’s the
exhaust
like i don’t really i’m not a fan of it
it’s just so huge and
bulky and… yeah.
i think for me i think it might be the
fork color or something but…
i hate the forks too! um
i don’t like the gold i think it looks
real um tacky.
so yeah i mean i think like uh i don’t
know it’s kind of hard
i don’t think that anybody can purchase
maybe everyone’s different can purchase
a bike
off the lot all stock and like be like
it’s perfect for
me. i think we all have different tastes
and um
that’s something i love about you know
motorcycles and
is modifying it to be yours.
um so i’m yeah i have stuff planned
um for the ftr my exhaust should be
ready by the end of this
week um and so yeah.
yeah. i um i don’t think i would go as
far as you
with the with the forks you know um but
they were just like
i felt like that with maybe you’re right
maybe it is the exhaust it was like a
combination there’s like little things
where i was just like this bike has got
a lot of potential
but yeah it’s just for me aesthetically
it it missed but then again
i’m like watching all these reviews of
people loving riding it and then i
found myself like man
if this stupid state ever opens up again
i’d love to go test ride one.
everyone that testifies it loves it
follows you know what the funny thing is
is that
i hadn’t even sat on the bike until i
went to go purchase it
like when we went to go and buy it that
was my first time sitting on it and
mostly because i knew in my head i was
going to psych myself
out because it was going to be really
tall and i was going to be tiptoeing it
and i was gonna be like no no i can’t do
it like i’m not good enough or i’m not
good enough right or not experienced
enough
um but then again i started on the scout
bobber which is a
pretty big bike for me um power wise and
so
my husband was like no you’re fine you
can do it like he’s like that like we’re
all like you got this
and so yeah that was my first time even
sitting on it
um and then like of course i think i
rode it the next day i was afraid to go
ride it that when we brought it home
and i was going like super slow
on the streets i was like ahhhh. Oh i mean, i
had mine delivered to my house so
i can’t uh i can’t say much.
i uh you know i did the msf course but
you know it’s all in the parking lot
and my previous experience um riding
was in nicaragua in um like a grass
field
you know so i’d never been on the street
with cars before yeah and you know with
the whole situation that’s going
on right now i didn’t want to be out and
about anyway um and plus most things
were closed
um so i called harley on a whim like
hey are you guys still selling bikes?
and luckily they were and they were able
to deliver it and um
it’s been it’s been a lot of fun. i’ve
been doing a lot of like parking lot
practice stuff
um have you ever heard of moto jitsu?
no. oh my gosh.
i actually i have his hat outside right
now drying because i washed it
um it just came in today and it’s been
the hat that this hat sucks
uh but seeing what i’ve gotten i’ve got
the covid hair so it’s like all like
long and poofy… anyway
so i needed a hat and i ordered this um
hat from motojitsu a long time ago
it’s through teespring on youtube you
know so i thought it was going to be
fast
but i guess they’re getting hit hard
with the whole you know
shut down so it took like forever to get
the hat
anyway it’s outside. moto jitsu, that’s
beside the point, he is
a youtuber and he’s actually based uh
somewhere in california
he does the courses like he’s a teacher
for a bunch of the courses
and he’s got a youtube channel and he
also has books out so i bought his book
um the moto jitsu
yeah he goes by fast eddie is his
nickname
and he basically just gives you all
these different tips and tricks on how
to like
get better riding your motorcycle and so
his book actually has
all the drills with the measurements and
everything so i bought some cones i
bought one of those little sticks that
you can like measure distance from
yeah there’s a parking lot near me as go
set them up and i do the drills you know
i use the measured drills probably once
a week and then i basically try to do
some emergency stopping and swerving
basically every time i ride the bike
either you know before i leave to go for
my ride
or when i’m almost home i’ll stop buying
a parking lot near my house
just because you know
i saw people in my msf class that had
been riding motorcycles on the street
for years
and they were having so much trouble
with like the basics
because riding on the street is a little
bit different than really being able to
um like do these low speed maneuvers and
and even emergency stopping which could
save your life these people
couldn’t do it properly you know um
so. yeah yeah they offer a like a second
like intermediate
course i know like the chp one here in
california does
and i want to take that, especially with
the ftr
because the bobber i’m pretty confident
on and um
and i can stop pretty well but i know i
was actually just talking to my husband
about
it like just two days ago maybe that i
still
fear like like i downshift too fast on
the ftr because i’m afraid i’m not gonna
stop in time by time i get to the light
um and it just kind of yeah i would
definitely i mean there’s no there’s no
shame in taking those courses
you know especially like the
intermediate ones and you know i know
i’ve been riding for almost two years
but um it’s a new style bike for me so.
well i think um you know one of the
things that they talk or
he talks about on his channel is that
you know you can upgrade your bike and
that’s kind of upgrading hardware
but it’s actually more important to
upgrade the software
you know which is your body and your
mind’s reaction
um and you know
yeah you’ll you’ll be surprised i mean
emergency braking
especially that’s one thing i’ve been
focused on a lot um because the
perception that you have
of how far you actually need to stop i
mean they probably do the same thing i
hear it’s called an msf course in
california it sounds like it’s called
something different
but um did they did they do that
demonstration in your guys’s class where
they made you like guess how long it was
gonna take them to stop by putting a
cone out
and then actually hitting the brakes not
a guess but
we had to stop so we had to get up to
i think third gear maybe and then we had
to downshift and stop
and we couldn’t like pass a certain
distance like we had to stop within that
distance
yeah yeah um i was one of those people i
did horrible in my chp course
i didn’t think they were going to pass
me well i think that
um you know at least in our class they
were talking about how
most people have like a certain range
you fall in and like every single class
you know there’s everyone’s kind of in
the middle some people might be a little
bit better some like people might be a
little bit worse but pretty much
everyone’s in the middle
um most classes and i think
you know as long as you pass and if you
keep practicing especially so keep
practicing
um i mean that was a long time ago i’m
definitely a lot better rider now
but um i don’t do well under pressure
and i don’t do well
with like all eyes on me and that’s kind
of how it felt because you had you know
you go one by one
and um it’s funny because i was stalling
like crazy
and i just couldn’t yeah i was just it
was all in my head it was more of like a
mental thing for me
so oh i completely understand i mean um
i’m not much of a public speaker either
and yeah when i’m doing like um youtube
lives or something like that and if i
get too well mostly instagram because
i’ve got a photography business on the
side and so my my photography accounts
got like
it’s not that big a couple thousand or
something but um either way sometimes
when i go live on there i’ll get a
couple hundred people and then it feels
like i’m on the spot and i’m just like
i can’t talk you know what i mean
yeah so i totally get it so
okay i noticed that um a lot of women
right now are starting to ride
more than in the past but it still seems
like
they’re lagging behind the men obviously
as far as numbers are concerned
what do you think brands could do if
anything
to get more women interested in riding
motorcycles
what brands can do um i think the
one thing that is kind of
important is maybe advertising to women
um and that could be either like
commercials or
instagram social media um
i don’t make us feel like we’re welcome
in the community because i think it’s
obviously
very male dominant but i also think that
they cater to the men
more than they do to the women like i
mean
i think that there has been some change
but still
i don’t i think it’s the for us women
we’re not stupid
and like the whole advertising thing can
be kind of like either hit or miss
um and i’m one of those people
that like if i see like an advertiser
whether it be like a poster
a commercial whatever and it’s like a
freaking like model sitting on a bike
who obviously doesn’t know
how to ride then i’m not gonna be sold
if i see somebody that i can relate to
you then i can see myself
and be like oh like i can do that you
know um
so i think that they don’t do a very
good job at that
and i think
i think it’s like most no i’m not gonna
call out brands but i think it’s
most of them i mean i think that it’s
fair to say if you look at most of the
advertisements
for the different motorcycles you’re
either going to have
primarily men in the ads or depending on
the brand you might have like
the hot girl on a bike like you said who
doesn’t really
ride um yeah you know
and my thing is like personally i’m not
against a hot girl on a bike as long as
um it’s a hot girl who actually rides a
bike
you know i mean because if you look on
instagram now there’s plenty of women
who are both models
and um you know bikers like they truly
love motorcycles so
i feel like the brand wants to go that
route
at least they could pick someone from
the community instead of just like some
random
random model you know yeah like i just
feel like why pay
somebody who really isn’t even that
interested when you can
pay someone who
i don’t know i mean they possibly bought
your buying so like you already mean
it’s like you’re even
yeah yeah well i mean not only that but
um i think
that people can you know they can smell
bullshit to some degree
right and you know i think that
when i was going through some of my
marketing classes um
years ago they were talking about how
people value authenticity
and i think that you know like you were
saying being able to see more people who
you can relate to on a motorcycle would
have
you know probably helped other women too
you know
bikes and i think that comes down to
authenticity and
you know if you’re just going with
someone who’s just a model but not
really interested
in motorcycles and on two different
fronts now
they’ve disconnected from their audience
you know not everyone’s a model number
one and then number two you if you can
tell the person doesn’t know what
they’re doing on a bike
then it doesn’t seem authentic either
so yeah yeah it’s yeah i agree with you
it it really doesn’t i don’t
yeah i don’t know um i know like
i’m not sure if you know this but that i
was in an indian motorcycle magazine
um it was the um
it was their writers group magazine and
they asked
six of us real writers to be a part of
it and so
i thought that was really cool and for
one i was excited because like i got to
be a part of it
but i think i was more excited about the
fact that it was like real
riders like real owners who
purchase their bikes and love their
bikes and
rep their bikes and they’re asking us to
um
to kind of re represent their their
brand and so that was really cool that
was like a really i don’t know
if they’re going to continue to go into
that direction
i know that this was the first time
they’ve done it so um and if you look at
the other riders
um that were in it not just me were very
diverse
and so that was cool to see too you
don’t see very many
um like especially lying women being
represented in the motorcycle community
so especially even with my brat indian
you know i think
harley does a decent job at being more
inclusive
but i don’t think india has really done
so great
well so what i would say um
is indian
is you know it’s owned by polaris right
i mean you obviously know that
um and polaris i mean they are great
business people
but i don’t know have you ever looked at
their board of directors or their
c-suite
uh if you if you go to their website and
you you look at
the people who are in uh the upper the
senior management
and on their board of directors it’s
just a sea
a sea of white people .oh i see. that’s
all it is.
so they basically got no diversity in
their upper management so
it’s not shocking to me that it’s taking
them a little bit longer maybe
um you know…. to realize it?… jump on the
idea that oh maybe our advertisement
should be a little more diverse
yeah yeah yeah i
but i mean i think that they’ll get it
to be honest i think that um
i think with time and times are changing
so i think that they’ll start to
pick up on it and i mean more and more
women are riding like it’s a whole
market that they’re gonna miss out on if
they don’t
jump on it yeah so um i don’t know i
think it was uh
oh i don’t want to miss i don’t want to
misquote this woman’s instagram handle
i think she’s like ladyrider or
something on instagram
but uh she just did a video where
um she was talking about how women um
female writers are the fastest growing
group of new motorcycle
writers in the market yeah so you’ve
heard that too
yeah so any company that’s not at least
considering what they can do
to get some more of that market share is
crazy
and let’s say you know i heard some
criticism that you know that they’re
using polling versus
um insurance numbers you know because
obviously if you get insurance data then
you know who’s insuring the bike since a
little bit more
accurate than just sending out a poll
hey do you right or not are you a woman
or a man
yeah you know but even if you just
consider the fact that you know most
writers are men
then you know that the most potential to
gain
new writers has got to be in the group
that’s not writing
yeah right
yes it makes sense but you know yeah
people get on board eventually
yeah they will hopefully all right so
let’s get into the indian ambassador
stuff
um how long after writing did
it take before indian contacted you
about maybe being an indian ambassador
yeah well so like i mean i guess i
wouldn’t consider myself like an
ambassador
but i guess i can see how people
would um okay so the first time
go ahead yeah okay so so you’re not an
official ambassador because i know
harley’s got ambassadors i don’t know
what indian calls them i assumed that
you were related to them in some way
because they had you in the magazine and
you know i think that they’ve sent you
like shirts and gear or something before
so
um what what do they kind of think of
you i don’t
know what i i honestly feel like i’m
just a writer like i’m a writer and
they happen to stumble across um
my instagram and asked to be part of the
shoe
um i don’t necessarily like
yeah i don’t know i don’t know how to
like explain our relationship i guess
you could say
i think that it’s kind of like um one of
those
i don’t know it sounds very 2020
relationship you know
right like there’s no official title
we haven’t really we’re talking you’re
talking
yeah basically i mean i have a good
relationship with them and so i don’t
um but at the same time like i
i think they’re like that with a lot of
um like platforms like i know that they
gave a guy
on youtube a bike for 30 days to ride
and test ride and so
i think a lot of brands are starting to
um
realize the power of social media and
influencers and youtubers and so they’re
kind of
like testing it out and um
so we’ll see where it leads us you know
i don’t know
what it’ll do so and it’ll lead me
that makes perfect sense though because
a lot of people are doing what they call
cord cutting right
so fewer and fewer people have cable tv
now
and everyone’s kind of moving to youtube
um i mean i can tell you i don’t even
own a tv
so i get all of my
i don’t watch a lot of tv but when i do
it’s like netflix um
what’s the other one i think i’ve got
stars um
i think because i’ve got amazon prime
i’ve got amazon prime
video but i really i mean i probably
watch
an hour or two of um quote-unquote tv
but i watch a lot of youtube you know
got you
and so if advertisers are smart they’re
going to start doing what these guys are
doing which is you know hey
try this bike show your audience um
instagram a lot like i
you know i saw a lot of the um content
you were producing which really
introduced me more deeply into indian
because um
and actually one of the reasons i
started considering indian as one of the
bikes was because i saw so many of your
pictures
of those um the indian scouts and i was
just like oh my god that is a beautiful
bike so
i have gotten messages from people
saying that they bought the bike because
of me
um because of my page and
um even not just the bike itself but
like modifications i’ve done to the bike
i’ll get you know what did you do to
this what did you use
like you know and so um but it’s crazy
to think that and
i think indian as a business is
realizing that that how much of a
like influence influencers have
um because i’ve lost count of how many
people have told me that
they’ve gotten the bobber because of my
page
yeah i was legitimately set on the iron
883
and then i kept i kept seeing your posts
and i kept looking at
that bobber going oh my god that thing
is so pretty it is and
so i seriously i seriously started
considering it to the point where i was
sending screenshots of both bikes to
my friends and family going which one do
you like better
you know and it was pretty much split 50
- so they didn’t help me at all
yeah um that’s so funny
but but yeah so i mean social media
works
yeah oh yeah let’s see
um all right so kind of along the same
lines as far as you know this ambiguous
relationship
with uh indian that you have what are
some of the things that indian has done
for you as a creator
um so they’ve given me so for one i got
to do the magazine
um i’ve been featured on their page um
i’ve been asked to do like a voice
over thing for their page as well i’m
just talking about like why i chose uh
indian um and so yeah like
basically just that i know like i’ll
probably team up with them when i do a
giveaway
um probably when i hit like 20k
in my mind is what i’m thinking is when
i’ll do it um
so yeah so things like that i mean i got
a lot of like
um gear i guess and swag from them when
i
did the magazine shoot so that was
really cool
but um other than that you know that’s
it
okay um
so you know i mean i’m sure i already
know the answer to this
but um you talk a lot on your social
media about how much you enjoy pinup
how well do you feel that the bobber has
been fitting into that whole
pinup aesthetic that you have going yeah
i think it fits
in like perfectly did you have a
different bike in mind
when you first were considering the
pin-up look or
you know no okay
no like it’s so crazy like i mean
i guess not necessarily like one
particular like anything
old so if it was like a 1940s bike
um then i would love it but again like i
didn’t ever see myself purchasing one
even if i do
purchase one in the future it’s kind of
one of more of those like trophy pieces
where
i would write it here and there show it
off take it to shows or whatnot
um but the bobber just kind of fit that
like
modern vintage feel that i was going for
and um i don’t like to give myself like
a title title but like i would consider
myself to be like a modern
vintage person like i have vintage
um styles but yeah i’m still i’m very
modern
still and i felt like the bobber was
like that the indian
i mean i when i park it and people come
up to it they still
are surprised that it’s a 2018 they
think it’s like an older indian
that i just took really good care of so
did you um did you have an interest in
pinup before the bike or
um was it sort of something that kind of
grew along with the bike
um interesting pinup you said right yeah
yeah
no i’ve always loved pinup
i’ve always loved like the kind of
rockabilly
um error like what the women
i mean for me like the 1940s is when
women
kind of you know got out of the houses
and they
started working oh my gosh my cat almost
knocked this over
um anyway so yeah like it was when
you know it was during the war and women
were like stepping up their
working game and doing like all
badass type of stuff and but at the same
time
the models then were the models on like
the
the you know the bomber pinup yeah
models like i just i don’t know there’s
something about like the 1940s that
i was always drawn to and so
i felt like i had like a
past life in the 40s
your past life wasn’t that far along far
back huh it really wasn’t no
i i say that all the time i was like and
in the 50s
i like going in my cat is like adorable
say hi gwen hi
oh she’s really clingy so she’s gonna
lay here for a second
i am absolutely stunned that my cats
haven’t come over here
um all day today during work because
this is my work desk as well uh
all day they were climbing my lap they
were sitting right here on this desk
they were trying to get on my keyboard
they climb my leg and make me scream
because i’ll be like fast at work you
know like watching my screen and then
all of a sudden i just feel these like
little kitten claws
coming up my leg that’s adorable
oh they are adorable and it’s it’s
horrible because we got too many animals
already so we’ve got
four permanent cats that are in the
house we’ve got a dog
and then now we’ve got these two new
kittens we had four kittens we adopted
two of them out
and um so we got two left and
i think they’re gonna end up staying but
we’ll see
so do you guys like um foster cats or
kittens or
kind of so no i want to do that so badly
that’s why i asked
my neighborhood has a lot of cats
so there is a stray cat that has
discovered
our back patio is a great place to have
kittens
so we’ve got two kittens from her
previous litter already
that makes two of our four permanent
cats are her last two kittens
and we didn’t catch her to get her fixed
and
um she had disappeared from the yard and
the next time we saw her
my girlfriend came in and she goes oh my
god
i said i said what she goes i think i
hear kittens out there
and i saw mama cat in the backyard
that’s what we call we call her mama cat
yeah and i was like no and she said yeah
and i went outside i didn’t hear any
kittens i didn’t see mama cat so i was
like ah
whatever maybe not you know and then
maybe a few days later i went outside
because my dog is super old and you know
i let him out and in
and i was standing outside with him just
kind of keep an eye on things
and i hear meow
and i look over on my patio underneath
my patio chair
and there’s a little orange face staring
at me
and i was like no there are kittens
anyway so now we we brought them in when
they got old enough and we fostered
yeah but yeah we’re hoping to catch mama
cat we’ve got a trap
in the car and i’ve got a can of uh
sardines that i plan on using to to
catch her but
yeah we got to get her fixed because i
can’t keep taking any more kittens you
know
yeah i’m too much of a softy have a hard
time getting rid of them because i’m
always like
what if i give them to someone who’s
like that and i would feel bad if i give
them to someone they treat them badly
yeah it’s just uh yeah it’s it’s tough
for me
i’m too much of a softy for animals
all right so let’s see what uh what can
we go next let’s talk about some sort of
sponsorship stuff do you have
sponsors currently at all yeah like i
get
sponsored from a lot of um like clothing
companies
and um a couple of like
moto brands um my
i think like i feel like my exhaust is
going to be my biggest one
which i don’t want to give away yet
because i feel like i’m trying to keep
it as a surprise
for what exhaust i get on the ftr so
um yeah that one’s been in the works for
a while so this podcast is probably an
account in august
so if you plan on releasing it before i
don’t
know because like i said it’s been a
long time that i’ve been waiting for
it so um it could be in a week
like they said but then they said that
like a month ago
so i don’t know okay well we’ll we’ll
keep it quiet for now are there no
no worries um because i just know that
when people get really curious i know i
get really curious about like
once people start getting recognized by
brands
not just the motorcycle brands but by
the um like the clothing companies you
know
the the grip makers the you know all the
little
bibs and bobs that that go around um
like how long does it take before people
start really
contacting you like you feel like it’s
an account size do you feel like
i think it’s like account size i think
and maybe
like how much work you put into your but
so i’m one of those
influencers moto influencers um that
likes to modify her bike so and i’m not
saying that like the other ones don’t
um but i’m not one of those like i throw
slip-ons on my exhaust and i’m good to
go
like i want to do like a whole like i’ve
got
all kinds of custom tune and exhaust and
rear fender i just ordered and
turn signals and headlight and bar and
grips and everything so i do it all
um and so like for me i think companies
maybe notice that and like okay this
person
really likes to do things for their bike
um
so let’s contact them also with that
being said
though i tend to choose brands that
aren’t necessarily
big and don’t um do sponsorships like
that
simply because i like that piece better
so i will
pay for something over something for
free
a sponsor because i like it better so
i’m not like one of those also like it’s
like i wouldn’t take whatever you give
me like i’ve told people no because i’m
like
that’s not really the look i’m going for
um so
no i mean you know that that makes
perfect sense
you know you don’t want to have to be
you know wearing stuff that you don’t
enjoy
just because it’s free you know it’s one
thing if someone pays you i feel like
but if it’s just like hey here’s some
free free shirts and then you know
exactly i think like a perfect example
would be like my exhaust is not even for
my bobber
um i’ve gotten so many people
it’s notoriously loud my my exhaust um
but they don’t they don’t even have an
you know anything so it wasn’t like i
was gonna get anything out of it i
wasn’t gonna get
tags and shares and followers it was
more of like
this exhaust flows really nice with the
bike and it sounds
really good i want that one yeah yeah so
everyone’s mindset’s different
so that reminds me you live in
california
yes and you have an exhaust yes i have
not gotten pulled over did you did you
keep your stock exhaust just in case
so that’s tricky because i’m very
rebellious
and um i did keep my stock exhaust
except that i chopped my exhaust and i
removed the baffles from the stock
exhaust
so i know technically
it’s still stuck
but um you know yeah there’s that log
but
they don’t really care at least in my
opinion they don’t i mean i’ve had my
exhaust on my bike for
a year and a half and um
i’ve gotten pulled over once for
speeding and they didn’t mention my
exhaust okay well i just um
i watched you you’ve heard of laidlaw um
no the dealership
i mean you’re you’re you know an indian
girl but uh
it’s a harley dealership and this guy uh
late i think his name’s michael laidlaw
he’s got his own youtube channel and he
just started his own podcast as well
and uh he does it with their their uh
their head mechanic i forget what it’s
called but basically it’s him and his
head mechanic
and they were just talking about how
california has started finding
um people for even selling non-stock
exhaust
in california so
to some degree it seems like they take
it seriously but then you were talking
about
but if you know someone who lives out of
state
and they can purchase it for you and
then send it to you
because yeah there are companies that
you can’t buy you can’t buy it from
yeah yeah like they were talking about
how the harley catalog for instance has
all these different
options but they’re not available in a
lot of the state or not available in
california even if they are available in
other states because
california is so strict um with that
stuff like i guess
um you know the dealership can be fined
the i think he was saying even the
person who’s like behind the counter who
sold it might be able to get fined
don’t quote me on that but that’s how
crazy it was
about the whole stupid exhaust thing um
yeah i believe it because i know that
there’s companies that you can’t get
your exhaust shipped here in california
so
but i also think there’s ways around it
and
i don’t really understand that law to be
honest just because
i i have kind of two perspectives where
i have one bike that’s really loud
and then i have the ftr that still has
exhaust uh stock exhaust that sounds
like a freaking sewing machine
and there’s so many times where cars
don’t
hear me and so then they don’t see me
and they’re like literally
trying to cut me off
and that’s frustrating um especially
because that rarely happens with the
bobber because
it’s so loud mm-hmm
know i’m coming people hear me um and so
they kind of like look around because
they’re like where’s that coming from
um whereas the ftr even though i felt
like i was getting more visible because
i’m higher
they don’t they don’t hear me they don’t
hear me coming
yeah they don’t see me so that could be
very dangerous
100 now there’s a lot of debate around
whether you know the whole
loud pipes saves lives things some
people call bs on it
some people swear by it um you know i
didn’t even know it was a debate before
i started riding motorcycles
uh because personally when i was driving
my truck
anytime i would hear a motorcycle i
would start looking around
to see where that motorcycle was
so even though a lot of people say it’s
bs i can only speak from personal
experience as a driver before i rode
motorcycles
and as a driver when i heard a bike i
immediately started looking
for where it was at where is that coming
from where it was
yeah it’s like a siren when you hear
sirens you’re like oh shit where’s it
coming from so i can stop
yeah um and i think that they prevent
accidents i really do
well and there’s a lot of data that
shows um
even when people look they don’t see
motorcycles
you know because of just the way the
brain works uh
because the brain when you learn to
drive especially if you’ve never ridden
a motorcycle is looking for other cars
and so the brain just like fills in gaps
and so it’s like if you turn your head
you’re looking right at a motorcycle but
because your brain is not expecting to
see it
it just fills in like either empty space
or whatever and then you keep moving
um and so people legitimately just don’t
see you even if they look right at you
yeah i don’t know i believe that i think
anything that helps you
stand out i think so there’s this
um game that i i read about and that i
tried to
do with my kids which i think that if we
can get other people to do it with their
kids
um and that’s kind of like where you
kind of almost like play i spy
yeah but instead you look for
motorcycles like let’s see who can find
the most motorcycles and so it teaches
those children to look out
for motorcycles where it’s kind of that
same thing where it’s kind of embedded
in your brain
um and you naturally like are always
looking for motorcycles
um so like i know like my son my oldest
does already like and he’ll like be like
what kind of motorcycle is that and
he’ll wait for it and then he’s like oh
that’s a harley or or that’s a whatever
like he’s
um and so that kind of stuff like i know
growing up when he drives like he’s
always going to notice
motorcycles you know he’s going to be
aware of the road and
the riders so that’s pretty cool no and
actually that’s one of the things i’ve
heard people suggest
for people who don’t ride motorcycles is
to do something like that because
it’s the same principles principle
behind when you are thinking about
buying something
like a certain kind of car a certain
kind of bike all of a sudden you start
seeing it everywhere right
yeah yeah so um
let’s shift a little bit back to the
sponsorship thing
if you could have one dream sponsor
you know bike clothing whatever it
doesn’t matter any
do you have a dream sponsorship in mind
like a brand that i love yeah a brand
that you love that if you just be
sponsored by them
two i think and that would be obviously
indian
a motorcycle and then i have one that’s
not um
indian related but i’m obsessed with
coca-cola
oh nice okay so if i like unlimited like
lifetime supply of coke
that’s hilarious but it goes really well
i guess with the pinup theme too you
know
it does and it’s crazy because it wasn’t
purposely like you know i just that’s
just naturally how
i am i love coke i i do too but i have
to get the uh i
only like the mexican cokes with the
real sugar yes
yeah with the bottle one yeah so
not only the flavor but for some reason
the other ones give me heartburn
that’s interesting it’s yeah it’s and
the glass gets colder easier too
like it’s really yeah i i buy the little
four pack of those and like when i want
to like spoil myself i’ll have like one
of those
i can’t finish it i don’t even drink
that much soda but i still love coke
yeah i um i don’t drink that much soda
either for a while i was you know
for the first probably couple months of
social isolation
social isolation i was kind of going to
hog wild with the sodas
and i was getting like you know six of
those things a week
yeah which for me is a lot um but i’ve
since basically cut it out because it
was like oh
you know i’m fat enough i don’t need to
drink all this soda
but that’s cool coke and indian
that’d be interesting photo shoot you
know like a coca-cola advertisement
on an indian motorcycle you can have
them the red bandanas or something
yeah yeah i would love to do that
so now that kind of leads us to the
other aspect of what i see a lot of
on your instagram account which seems to
be modeling
um how long have you been modeling
you know that’s so crazy hearing that
because i am not like a
model i guess okay i guess i would kind
of i guess
categorize myself as a model now but
like i always joke that like
buying a motorcycle and then like
building an instagram off of it turned
me into a model
because i never intentionally tried to
do that it just kind of was more of like
here’s pictures of my bikes
or my bike and then like you know
modifications and here’s measure with me
on it
and then i wanted to always do like that
pin up look and so i did it
what really kind of triggered it was i
kind of slowly
started getting um dms from
photographers wanting to
take my picture with a bike um i still
remember the first
one and i was like this is so weird um
and so i did it and then right after
that they just started flowing
in like crazy and so
i’ve lost count of how many
photographers i’ve collabed with
um but yeah it’s just kind of and this
was like before i had
like over the 10k mark on instagram i
think i only had maybe like
3 000 followers um
so yeah that’s pretty it’s crazy but
that’s i guess what it is okay
so then i take it um well i guess you
didn’t mention how long ago you bought
the
um so i got it in early 2018.
okay so two years about two years so
you’ve been modeling
approximately two years year and a half
so i would say then like a year and a
half i was like halfway in is when
okay they started asking so now that
you’ve kind of gotten
more involved in the modeling and
photography
scene do you have any kind of dream
shoots in mind
that you really want to do i think you
mentioned about frida kahlo at one point
yeah so i would love to do um
anything like cultural related um
just because it’s i mean to my culture
and i feel like a lot of pride
um but i also feel really confident in
that kind of setting
um maybe because i’m really comfortable
i’m not too sure
um another one that i really really
really want to do once i like get
brave enough is i really would love to
like recreate like a betty page
kind of photo shoot um i’ve
loved that woman since like high school
and
um her photos and just like her style
i would love to do something like that
if i
get brave enough to do it well you know
um first off
a model is anyone who’s willing to get
in front of a camera you know number one
and
i think personally this is kind of
infringing on a question i’ve got later
down in here
but um you know so like i mentioned i
mentioned before that i’m a photographer
but
i don’t um i don’t think i mentioned
that my primary
business was actually boudoir
photography um before this whole thing
oh okay hit so um
you know you run across a lot of people
who have these ideas
like ah you know this type of
photography or this type of modeling or
this type of um
gift for my husband spouse whoever
you know isn’t for me and it’s like well
you know number one everyone should have
the confidence
that they are beautiful
you know what i mean and if you
constantly just compare yourself to
what’s put in magazines
well that’s you know that’s ludicrous
it’s just gonna make people feel bad
yeah i think it’s in a lot of damage to
people’s psyches like putting forward
this idea that like this is what’s
beautiful but
as you see because you’re into pinup
like what is quote unquote beautiful
changes throughout time you know it’s
really subjective and it’s it really is
one of these things if you’re trying to
keep up with what’s what’s beautiful
you’ll never fit in because like
you know growing up in the 80s it was
always like the super skinny
super twig like models right and then
now
it’s like big big booties you know what
i mean like tiny
boobs yeah yeah exactly like the pamela
anderson
type deal right and and so i think that
if
people are trying to like you know
wait until they fit the modern whatever
the modern beauty standard is to do
something
well you may never you know reach that
because
it’s just manufactured by media because
you always have to have something new
and something that people can’t actually
do otherwise
you know what how do they stand out like
if those women look like everyone then
of course they’re not gonna uh yeah they
won’t sell as many magazines like you
can’t sell
someone on how to build bigger how to
build a bigger booty
if everyone’s got a bigger booty you
know what i mean yeah
no it makes sense i get it yeah sorry i
went off on a tangent but uh
anyway i think if you want to do it you
should do it and
uh you know and if you don’t though
because it’s one of those areas
personally where i think people really
need to be careful about pushing
boundaries because
in life pushing boundaries can be a
healthy thing but it can also you know
be an unhealthy thing and
and it’s one of those things you really
got to think through
as far as you know is this a healthy
boundary i’m pushing or is this
a boundary that i’m not really that
comfortable pushing
if that makes sense so no it i get it
anyway i think i will do it i just
get nervous okay yeah
how long do you think you’ll continue
modeling have you thought about it
all or for as long as people still want
to shoot me
because that’s it’s i think the thing i
like
about it the most is having the images
to
pass on to like my children possibly
like
my future grandchildren um especially
like
the females of you know of my daughter
and if
you know my sons or her decide to have
children if they have daughters like
it’s kind of one of those like well
if mom and grandma can ride motorcycles
then it kind of more of like that
empowering feeling um is what i’m trying
to
hand down do you have any other hobbies
besides modeling and motorcycles
and now i know dance so this is probably
a redundant question dancing
running running okay and
makeup i’ve done a lot of like
character makeup like i’ve turned myself
into like
venom and like um
like michael jackson like that kind of
stuff i think i always i think that
would be really cool to do some kind of
like
um special effects kind of makeup
yeah i have like a huge interest in that
so what what uh do your parents think
of you riding a motorcycle
um so my mom i think at first was kind
of like
like nervous um just like any mother
would be
mine was yeah um
but now i think she embraces it i think
that
she’s very
um i mean she was a single mom and so
she’s kind of like
had that like strength in her that i
think that
she kind of um directed towards me and
my sister
um neither of us are completely girly
girly
um i guess you can say like my sister
joined the um
the army into the national guard like
right out of high school which isn’t
like typical
of like a woman and then then there’s me
who’s
um always done the harder like
boxing riding motorcycles male dominant
type of stuff
so um i kind of almost like
i mean it’s kind of like her fault that
i do it
so that’s cool how long uh how long have
you boxed
so i boxed for like four years and then
i stopped just because of like
scheduling wise but i miss it so much
yeah so that that’s what happened with
me too once i got um
got you know a promotion and some
additional responsibilities and stuff it
just
became impossible to make the classes
because i did mma for a while so i did
muay thai and jiu-jitsu and judo and
yeah kind of stuff but it was like you
know
the times all the classes have a set
schedule and
i never knew when i was going to leave
the office and then i was paying all
this money for something i could only go
to like once a month so
yeah i’m dropping it but i’m right there
with you i miss it a lot
um did you ever do any competitions did
you ever boxing no
not like any kind of actual i just like
sparring
but not um not any fights i think there
was a point where
i was ready but then it was kind of hard
to find someone in like my weight class
and my um experience level and so that
was only for like i think it was like a
fight that was coming up he was going to
look for someone and then
after that it just kind of was like it
was just kind of more of like a
like a workout stress reliever type
thing so
oh yeah i mean you still at least always
say you know there’s no workout like a
fight workout
you know no there’s not you use so much
energy to be surprised you like train
you think you’re cool and then you
spar and then you’re just like what the
hell that was like so
drainy like someone who i run endurance
and i would be like tired from like
three rounds
so yeah there’s uh i wish i could
remember who
who said this and who the origin the
quote is but they’re like everyone’s got
a plan until they get punched in the
face
so i i definitely understand that so
would you consider yourself a feminist
yes no if yes why if not why not
um i guess so i would say yeah
um and i guess just because
um i think that i don’t know i go back
and forth on this because it depends on
like how you define feminism
but for me i think that we as women
should have equal opportunities
um but at the same time i am very aware
of how
different men and women are um in the
way that we are
just built um physically and
um i think that’s the only thing where
it comes to play
where like
yeah i just can’t explain it whereas
like okay i guess the best way to
explain is i have twins
and they’re i have a son and a daughter
and i know
for a fact that when my son is out late
i won’t be as worried
as i would be for my daughter who’s out
late so um
there’s that like without even really
fully being aware of how
biased that people are and
so like i know i will be like i can’t i
can tell you yes i think that women need
equal rights and
opportunities and there shouldn’t be
different rules put on them at the same
time
like i know that i fully don’t
you know act on that
what uh do you have a favorite book and
what is it if you do
um my favorite book is definitely the
hobbit
oh nice yeah i’m a huge lord of the
rings
geek um nope stop so
yeah that book is definitely i my
teacher i think was fourth grade teacher
read it to us
and um so like ever since then it was
just it was one of those things where i
was excited to go to class because i’m
like
her name was this bishop she’s good
she’s going to finish this chapter today
like i want to know what’s going to
happen
and so it was kind of one of those like
first books that drew my attention or
like
kept my attention even like i don’t
think i really enjoyed reading that much
before that
so um so yeah it’s definitely it’s the
hobbit
okay so um did you go on to read the
rest of the the books that i take it
yeah did you have a favorite outside of
the hobbit or
um i really like the hobbit
and yeah i love the hobbit
i think sometimes there’s some nostalgia
to the first book that you really enjoy
um too it holds a special place in your
heart i think
i think you’re right and i think maybe
that’s possibly it isn’t necessarily
because i
enjoyed the book more but more of like
it was like that first book that
i fell in love with so yeah no
so um for me when i was like i don’t
know
10 11 12 somewhere in that anger age
range right my
uh my aunt gave me a book to read um
called watchers by dean coons
and um it was the first real novel i
ever read
and just really really enjoyed and i i
think i’ve probably read books now that
are better
um since then but i still consider it my
favorite book just because it was the
first one that i
really loved the first time i got
absorbed in a book
you know yeah nope totally get it it
makes sense
um so do you have any books that you’re
reading right now or
i don’t have any books that i’m reading
right now you know what’s funny i have a
book that my sister gifted me
um and she i want to say it was like
months ago and i haven’t picked it up
yet but it’s right there by my bed
and it’s funny because it’s actually um
based it’s not a lord of the rings book
but this person um translated the book
um and jrr token who’s the
author was a um very devoted catholic
and so like the meaning behind the lord
of the rings
um is basically what this book is based
i’m catholic my family’s catholic and so
she gifted me that book and i’ve been
dying to read it
like so badly um and i just haven’t been
able to pick it up
i should do that tonight i keep telling
myself like all the time i’m like i’m
gonna pick it up i wanna start it and i
just haven’t
i go through phases i feel like where
you know i get really into books and so
i’ll read like a bunch in a row and then
i get distracted by something else i’m
doing and realize oh
it’s been a while since i’ve read a book
and then i’ll go back and i’ll read some
more
i think um i think the last one
i can’t remember the last one i read oh
you know what i’m actually still
reading it is um it’s called sweat the
technique by rakim
okay now i don’t i mean i’m not like big
on books
no no this actually rakim’s a rapper
right
so he uh he wrote a book called sweat
the technique
and um i uh that title makes more sense
yeah so i really i like his music
um you know i wouldn’t say that i’m like
a super fan or anything but i really
like his music
and he happened to be doing a book uh
signing
not too long before the whole shutdown
stuff happened
and so i went ahead and bought the book
and got it signed
and i’ve been kind of like reading it
here and there um
ever since it’s not that long of a book
but um
you know it’s actually what i was doing
was i used to smoke a lot of cigars
and so i would go on my back patio and
smoke a cigar and read some of the book
but i haven’t been smoking
for a long time um and so i just haven’t
uh it’s probably still sitting on my
back patio like right next to the table
honestly have you ever traveled do you
enjoy traveling
yeah i enjoy traveling okay so i know
that’s even kind of
well not everyone does i mean i know
people who hate
traveling yeah um and think
i’m a travel i love to travel i mean if
you can’t tell by the fact that i just
talking about being in nicaragua back in
november
um i like to travel but i’ve definitely
met people who are just like i hate
planes
um i hate going like staying in hotels i
like my own bed
you know what i mean like not everyone
likes it i feel like i may be like in
the middle then because i
like being home um
and i don’t i don’t adapt to change very
easily
so um yeah and then like i don’t
necessarily feel like the need to
travel i guess i don’t know like there’s
one place i really would love to go to
and that’s new zealand
um but other than that you know exactly
surprise surprise
um and other than that i don’t really
i don’t really have a like need or want
to
travel so okay yeah
i mean i understand the new zealand
thing that uh number one
of course you’ve got the lord of the
rings set is out there right i think
they’ve got the hobby goals and all that
kind of stuff
but it’s also a beautiful beautiful
wonderful country
so i totally i totally get that i was in
iceland
and it’s also a beautiful country kind
of reminded me of
some of the scenes from lord of the
rings when they’re in the icy mountains
you know yeah iceland does kind of
look like a middle earth well only some
parts of it i think new zealand
obviously since they filmed it there
uh has more yet
it definitely looks more like it uh but
yeah
when we were going through some of the
um some of the areas there it kind of
made me think back to some of the lord
of the rings movies
when they’re like in those little
mountain passes and it’s all snowy
yeah yeah if your kids decide to ride
motorcycles
would you be supportive or would you be
the mom who was like ah that’s not that
safe
um that’s funny because like i really
don’t want to put the kids
on like a passenger like with me i don’t
even feel comfortable with doing that
so i don’t know but i know like my son
is going to want to ride
my daughter can care less about bikes
but if she grew up and changed her mind
then i think i would be
supportive i think i would just do my
best to
make sure that they’re mature enough
number one um and then number two is
just kind of give them
as much knowledge and um
writing tips and that i can do but i’m
not going to stop them from doing it
because i think that’s kind of where my
parents felt like my mom was just like
you know you’re never going to run a
motorcycle as long as you’re in my house
and it was funny because i never had an
interest in it um so her saying that
really didn’t mean anything to me
because i was like yeah whatever i don’t
i don’t care
you know yeah until i got on one and
then i was hooked and
ever since then i’ve been thinking about
motorcycles and yeah
you know now i just love it i mean it’s
one of the few things i can do now where
i want to worry about interacting with a
bunch of people you know i can just hop
on my bike and
go for a ride i mean i even really enjoy
my parking lot practice stuff you know
like getting out and just like
trying to do stuff that’s hard on the
bike and practicing over and over and
then like watching myself get better
um i can’t i love cats
she’s clinky she’s like wants my
attention she’s like what are you doing
dude
well she’s she’s cute i’m surprised
you’re able to tell her no
i know sorry
um all right so let’s do a couple more
and then i’ll let you
let you get out of here and interact
with the kids um
let’s let’s go with uh let’s go with one
of these happy things
what would you consider to be your
happiest
childhood memory i think just kind of
like playing with my
friends and my cousin um
like playing like tag because
again i mentioned earlier there’s a huge
gap between me and my siblings so i
almost kind of felt like an only child
and so my cousin was only three years
older than me
and then my neighbors um
there was my best friend who i’m still
best friends with today so i’ve known
her since i was like five
um she was a year older than me and she
had a brother that was my age and so
there was like a group of friends
and this was before electronics or any
of that
so we would just play play tag play
freeze tag
play football play all kinds of stuff i
was a huge tomboy when i was younger
so sports and that kind of stuff that
would have to be
definitely my happiest childhood
memories it’s just plain
i just feel so fortunate that i lived
and grew up in the 90s
so
right like there’s a lot of like there
wasn’t like social media there wasn’t
you know playstations i mean
i guess there were but you know there
was yeah it was just better
so what do you consider your happiest
adult memory
i guess probably like my wedding day
just because like my children were
present
it was one of those where you know my
kids were kind of like in the wedding
yeah so that was cool that was something
like
my kite my kids kind of remember it you
know um they’re really young
but it would have to be that so did you
guys go
big with your wedding or did you go
something a little bit smaller
it was it was like medium i actually
didn’t want a big wedding i just wanted
to like get married but my
family and like our family wanted a
wedding so we had like
like 150 guests i think so i don’t know
if you consider that big is that big
i i think i had 12 in mine okay then so
then we have like a bigger wedding
wow i mean i wondered because you know
it’s one of those things where
um even though it’s your wedding there
are a remarkable number of people
involved who want to have some sort of
input
on it you know oh yeah and then two
i think part of our culture too because
we’re mexican is like
family is just big and so it was kind of
like if you invite one cousin
you have to buy all your cousins yeah um
so
yeah it was just kind of i think like
people would be offended if they didn’t
get invitation that’s just kind of how
it is
family drama yeah so everyone so
everyone comes
it’s a big party is your husband mexican
to them
yes yeah and his parents are like his
mom is one of
um i believe eight or nine kids yeah
yeah i mean
so you know my girlfriend’s mexican and
i went to
um one of her friend’s weddings as well
and i was just like again because i
only had like you know when i got
married i only had like 12 people in my
wedding and i never really considered
having more
and so and i’ve always really disliked
weddings i mean i went to one when i was
a kid and i’ve just not been a wedding
person right
and so i’ve been avoiding them for all
this time
and to suddenly go and uh
be submersed into this wedding where
there was just like
so many people around i didn’t know how
people kept track
you know um anyway for me
it was it was just uh overwhelming and
i think that it would have been a lot of
logistics you know to make sure
everyone’s fed and make sure everyone’s
happy
yeah and like you know but then you know
you’re talking to people and you do find
out it’s one of those things where it’s
like well okay
if you don’t invite this person then
they’re gonna be mad but if you
if you do invite this other person but
you don’t invite their whatever
then it’s gonna seem like a slight too
and it’s like
are all these people paying for this
wedding because that’s a lot of people
yeah it can get expensive
did you guys try to fund it yourselves
or did you guys get some help from
family or
we got help yeah we i mean we paid for
what we
could and then we got help so that’s
nice
like i said they really they wanted it
more than we both
did we just kind of like were like we
just want to get married we don’t want
to
put the money into that basically we
wanted to put the money into something
else so
um our family were more more than
willing to help since they were the ones
that were like well we want this wedding
so
no that that’s perfect i yeah i
completely sympathize i
you know again i do accounting as my my
day job and so like
you start thinking about all the money
you’re spending on flowers photographers
um clothes food the venue
you know i mean even the priest or
whoever decides to marry you wants some
money
it’s expensive it’s really expensive you
know all right well
i thank you for coming on this podcast
with me um i really do appreciate it
and uh i love your content on instagram
i’m excited to see what else keeps
coming out of your youtube because i
i see you’ve got that youtube channel um
started and
yeah you said you might have an exhaust
coming as early as next week
hopefully fingers crossed
all right i’m gonna say goodbye before i
keep talking
have a good one all right bye bye
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